A scheme to avoid on Rightmove ?

humptydumptybits

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

No she isnt.

I took it that that is her way of saying that isnt sex discrimination.

After all - one could argue that men can't have abortions and can be put in the position of being a parent against their will. Women can have abortions and therefore have the more favourable position - as they cant be forced into being a parent against their will.

....and...yes...I expect she has every sympathy (as do I) with a Society that makes it difficult/impossible for women to have abortions. I certainly feel very sorry for Northern Irish women in that position and thank goodness they are that one step nearer to having the same rights as all other British women. At least it's that little bit easier than it was for them - and, hopefully, they will soon no longer have to rely on our English medics to help them out of a situation like that. Thank goodness we do help them - whilst they still need it - and our help is freely given and it's right that it is. It will be a blessing come the day life is as easy for them in that respect as it is for us.

But it's not a sex discrimination issue.

It will be a blessing when nobody needs one.

moneyistooshorttomention

humptydumptybits wrote: »

Women still have longer life expectancy than men. Even children born today are expected to have different life expectancy so no sign of it equalizing in the next 80 years.

Still making the mistake of dividing people into males and females - rather than just having one category, ie people.

I'm almost certainly going to live for rather a lot longer than my brother. It's not going to be down to him having a male body and me having a female body. What it will be down to is he was/is a smoker (and I never have). He did/certainly still does eat a load of junk food/fatty food/etc and I eat healthily/he never investigates alternative health care and I'm intelligent enough to read up about it and often use it if I think conventional health care is lacking (so I can have the best of both worlds - whereas he doesnt). Nowt to do with our respective sexes - I bother and he doesnt. Simples.

But, by and large, life expectancy has more to do with, let's be tactful and call it "socio-economic background" and it is to do with money/healthy (or otherwise) habits/expectations/etc.

Dividing the sexes in two has to stop - right now - and certainly before we have any higher proportion of people deciding they are the opposite sex to what they were born, gender neutral, etc. Basically - I would say we now have 3 sexes and that's quite a sea change from when I was born even - ie CIS male (ie "standard" male), CIS female (ie "standard" female) and those who are somewhere-or-other on the spectrum in between all that (as it is their right to be if they so decide).

So anything dividing people into two sexes is now rather outdated and the companies are setting themselves up for a fall (with legal claims brought against them at some point over the next few years if they don't "change their ways").

Red-Squirrel_2

humptydumptybits wrote: »

But men do get denied health care (obviously not abortions) for example teenage girls get a vaccination against HPV, boys don't.

Not comparable.

humptydumptybits

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Not comparable.

In your opinion. You realise HPV can lead to cancer which can lead to death?

Red-Squirrel_2

humptydumptybits wrote: »

In your opinion. You realise HPV can lead to cancer which can lead to death?

I do realise that, and I do think it!!!8217;s worth looking at whether the vaccine should be given to boys, I think it!!!8217;s already being considered actually and that decision is going to be based on current medical evidence and cost/benefit analysis though.

Women who need abortions are denied them due to the religious convictions of strangers, not for medical reasons, and if they try to obtain the care they need or help someone else to obtain it, they are criminalised, they risk prosecution, prison, a criminal record for the rest of their lives.

So you see now that it isn!!!8217;t comparable?

diggingdude

Davesnave wrote: »

You have one right here, married to someone considerably below pension age. Presumably she would have to be taken into account if I were to become interested in this barmy scheme!





As above. The property we own now is much larger than the one we lived in when I was under 60. It's our money and we'll do what we want with it, thank you.

Totally agree with you doing what you want with your own money, doesn't make my point any less valid though ;D

seven-day-weekend

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Not comparable.

Why not? They run the same risks as women.

Tom99

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Getting back on track, the property is offered at 66% of its full value for a 69 year old male so with a life expectancy of 85 years £191,400 is buying a 17 year lease.[/FONT]

humptydumptybits

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

I do realise that, and I do think it!!!8217;s worth looking at whether the vaccine should be given to boys, I think it!!!8217;s already being considered actually and that decision is going to be based on current medical evidence and cost/benefit analysis though.

Women who need abortions are denied them due to the religious convictions of strangers, not for medical reasons, and if they try to obtain the care they need or help someone else to obtain it, they are criminalised, they risk prosecution, prison, a criminal record for the rest of their lives.

So you see now that it isn!!!8217;t comparable?

Have you considered that the original decision, over 10 years ago, was taken on the basis that if all girls were protected then boys would be protected as well as they couldn't catch or spread it. How does that protect gay or bi young people? Do you think that prejudice against gay people came into it, does religion come into that?


It isn't the same, doesn't mean it isn't comparable.

moneyistooshorttomention

Tom99 wrote: »

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Getting back on track, the property is offered at 66% of its full value for a 69 year old male so with a life expectancy of 85 years £191,400 is buying a 17 year lease.[/FONT]

What is the price for a 69 year old female?