Car released from garage without authority

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  • AndyMc.....
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    photome wrote: »
    The Op hasn’t asked him

    Even if he did, what can he say?
  • Mercdriver
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    It is, it may be a shock to you but criminal lie to the police. You don't know what he's done with the car but if he's sold it on or it's not recovered you're looking at theft.

    How can the OP be done for permitting if the car is on a transporter? The transporter would not be driving the car but the transporter van/lorry/low loader.

    He could easily tell the police that he had been asked to take it to place X or that the OP had said he would pay him £xxx and hasn't paid. It's easy to see how police could see it as a civil rather than a criminal matter.
  • AndyMc.....
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    Mercdriver wrote: »
    How can the OP be done for permitting if the car is on a transporter? The transporter would not be driving the car but the transporter van/lorry/low loader.

    He could easily tell the police that he had been asked to take it to place X or that the OP had said he would pay him £xxx and hasn't paid. It's easy to see how police could see it as a civil rather than a criminal matter.

    Sorry but if the story were true, he dishonestly appropriated the car when he went to the dealer.
  • Aylesbury_Duck
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    seashore22 wrote: »
    I'm eagerly awaiting the day when someone actually admits that they've made up the whole thing.

    In all my years on the internet I've never seen that happen. Now that would be a thread worth reading. One day maybe.
    This one came pretty close, although the OP here tried to claim he’d made it up when he got responses he didn’t like.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5475832#topofpage
  • Mercdriver
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    Sorry but if the story were true, he dishonestly appropriated the car when he went to the dealer.

    But from what we know in this thread how can you be sure what the truth is? There are so many holes in the OP's story, it's hard to know what or who to believe.
  • Nobbie1967
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    Even if he did, what can he say?

    Maybe, that he'd been asked to recover the car from the dealer as the owner was going to find a cheaper garage to do the work required and that he was still awaiting contact from the owner as to the new garage. As the OP has not contacted the recovery driver since he took the car it seems a pretty plausible story.

    The police aren't going to charge someone on such flimsy 'evidence' as the criminal burden of proof is 'beyond reasonable doubt'. There is more than reasonable doubt over everything the OP has said so far. To be honest, given the background info supplied by the OP, I'm not even sure I believe the car has been stolen on the balance of probabilities.
  • AndyMc.....
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    Nobbie1967 wrote: »
    Maybe, that he'd been asked to recover the car from the dealer as the owner was going to find a cheaper garage to do the work required and that he was still awaiting contact from the owner as to the new garage. As the OP has not contacted the recovery driver since he took the car it seems a pretty plausible story.

    The police aren't going to charge someone on such flimsy 'evidence' as the criminal burden of proof is 'beyond reasonable doubt'. There is more than reasonable doubt over everything the OP has said so far. To be honest, given the background info supplied by the OP, I'm not even sure I believe the car has been stolen on the balance of probabilities.

    Well in that case there would be evidence of the car being at another garage. Although why it would be removed from a main dealer when it’s in for warranty work is odd.
  • AndyMc.....
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    Mercdriver wrote: »
    But from what we know in this thread how can you be sure what the truth is? There are so many holes in the OP's story, it's hard to know what or who to believe.

    You can’t as I said if the story were true that’s where he’s been dishonest in relation to theft .
  • Nobbie1967
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    Well in that case there would be evidence of the car being at another garage. Although why it would be removed from a main dealer when it’s in for warranty work is odd.

    Not if he'd been asked to hold it pending a decision by the owner. This wouldn't be the only thing about the story that is odd, probably why the police do not want to get involved. They have experience of people trying to BS them.

    The OP seems to have done a runner, so seems like we are just arguing for the sake of it now, how unlike the motoring sub forum:rotfl:
  • AndyMc.....
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    Nobbie1967 wrote: »
    Not if he'd been asked to hold it pending a decision by the owner. This wouldn't be the only thing about the story that is odd, probably why the police do not want to get involved. They have experience of people trying to BS them.

    The OP seems to have done a runner, so seems like we are just arguing for the sake of it now, how unlike the motoring sub forum:rotfl:

    Well they are involved as he claims to have a crime number. In that case it’s a simple job to visit the recovery operator and recover the car.
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