Cloned registration plate

DCFC79

Any news OP ?

parking_question_chap

missile wrote: »

I would be very concerned that this cloned car might cause a more serious offence.

I would get a personalised number asap.

Seems a waste of money when the DVLA will provide a free one if the previous was cloned.


Not to mention how tacky they look.

twhitehousescat

eddddy wrote: »

I'd guess Ealing follow a similar approach to TfL. So if it was a congestion charge fine, TfL would want as much of the following as possible:

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]Details of a crime reference number (from when you report the cloned plates)

• Evidence or independent statements confirming that the car was somewhere else at the time

• Photos of your car showing differences between your car and the car pictured in the bus lane (like the blue line on the number plate)

They will then consider your case, based on what you provide.

the police will not issue a crime reference number , as there has not been a crime , a police log number is the best you will get

Car_54

twhitehousescat wrote: »

the police will not issue a crime reference number , as there has not been a crime , a police log number is the best you will get

If the registration has indeed been cloned, then there has been - at the very least - an offence under section 42 of the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994, and possibly other offences of dishonesty.

twhitehousescat

until a crime has been COMMITTED the police will not issure a crime reference number , we go thru this regularly on the private parking ticket forum

lets see if the OP can produce one ? , it will be recorded (log) but until used in a "crime" no crime reference number will appear

twhitehousescat

Not fixing registration mark.
(1)If a registration mark is not fixed on a vehicle as required by virtue of section 23, the relevant person is guilty of an offence.
(2)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(3)In subsection (1) !!!8220;the relevant person!!!8221; means the person driving the vehicle or, where it is not being driven, the person keeping it.
(4)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) to prove that!!!8212;
(a)he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act, and
(b)the vehicle was being driven for the purpose of being so registered.
(5)It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) in relation to a vehicle!!!8212;
(a)to which section 47 of the M1Road Traffic Act 1988 applies by virtue of subsection (2)(b) of that section, or
(b)to which [F1Article 63 of the Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995] applies by virtue of paragraph (2)(b) of that Article,(vehicles manufactured before the prescribed period and used before registration) to prove that he had no reasonable opportunity to register the vehicle under this Act and that the vehicle was being driven in accordance with subsection (6).
(6)A vehicle is being driven in accordance with this subsection if!!!8212;
(a)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under section 45 of the M2Road Traffic Act 1988 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from subsection (1) of section 47 of that Act by regulations under subsection (6) of that section, or
[F2(b)it is being driven for the purposes of, or in connection with, its examination under Article 61 of the M3Road Traffic (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 in circumstances in which its use is exempted from paragraph (1) of Article 63 of that Order by regulations under paragraph (6) of that Article.]

Ectophile

twhitehousescat wrote: »

until a crime has been COMMITTED the police will not issure a crime reference number , we go thru this regularly on the private parking ticket forum

lets see if the OP can produce one ? , it will be recorded (log) but until used in a "crime" no crime reference number will appear

The crime is driving around with a false registration plate. What else do you want?

Car_54

twhitehousescat wrote: »

Not fixing registration mark.
(1)If a registration mark is not fixed on a vehicle as required by virtue of section 23, the relevant person is guilty of an offence.
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Precisely. The driver of the 'cloned' vehicle is not displaying the mark required by section 23, i.e. the genuine reg. number of his vehicle. He has therefore committed the offence.

twhitehousescat

ok , lets see if the OP can get a crime reference number then , although the above ( The driver of the 'cloned' vehicle is not displaying the mark required by section 23, i.e. the genuine reg.) the OP has NOT been a victim of crime

Car_54

twhitehousescat wrote: »

ok , lets see if the OP can get a crime reference number then , although the above ( The driver of the 'cloned' vehicle is not displaying the mark required by section 23, i.e. the genuine reg.) the OP has NOT been a victim of crime

The OP has incurred a financial penalty as a result of the cloner's dishonest actions. That sounds like the victim of a crime.