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Prepping for Brexit thread

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  • VJsmum
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    edited 29 August 2019 at 9:57AM
    Deleted...… I said I would not get involved and I did...

    Back to lurking...
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  • Cheapskate
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    lobbyludd wrote: »
    I did have this discussion with my parents when they were growing a lot and we weren't. I have a very small garden in a city, that has to serve multiple purposes (drying washing, kid play area, growing stuff, recycling bin storage etc, with much of it up to 5 foot in shade), they had a massive garden for just the 2 of them, and a paddock and were retired early so had time to spare. We grew a few things so the kids could understand how to and where food comes from, but in terms of opportunity cost, dedicating any space to growing veg and having a glut of say carrots when local carrots are cheapest and we have no way of storing any over-production did not prove money saving. I also know now that any brassicas or cruciferous veg will be grazed to death by slugs no matter what I do, there are just too many around here, so they were economically a huge fail. Having a local co-op of growers who share seeds (I could not possibly find room to plant the one packet of seed onions I bought this year and of those I planted only half have grown, the conditions weren't right in some locations) or agree on who is going to grow what and share the produce can get over that. So for now, given the space we've got, I concentrate on high cost items: herbs and fruit. We have indoor lemons, oranges, ginger and limes, and patio rootstock fig/plum/apples/nectarines/soft fruits and herbs/savories like horseradish etc. Veg, we buy what is in season locally. My brother, with 5 adults and a load of land with it's own water supply etc can keep them all basically self sufficient in terms of veg, but It's hard to make that work on the "plot" I have.

    Can I ask how you grow horseradish, or ginger inside, please? I'm going back to growing more bits at home, until I manage to get an allotment (which may be some time!), but I've never grown these 2 things.

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  • Slinky
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    I think not a single person went into the referendum with our eyes and ears taped over and decided how to vote on a whim.


    Apart from that silly woman who voted leave because she didn't want the remain vote to be too high.......
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  • Just plain silly IF it's actually the truth.
  • maryb
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    Well, I'm sorted! Sainsbugs gave me a till spit last time and they currently have an offer on Yorkshire Tea - 240 teabags for £4.50. As long as we have tea all shall be well
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
  • DigForVictory
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    Prepping is not inate.

    Trying to keep a straight face when youngest expects to use & charge his laptop in a tent in a field far from all electric hookups. We spoiled him, allowing him half an hour in the library (who tolerate people coming in for mains) & also a Park & Ride bus with main ports!

    Colleague eyeing the prorogation anxiously (there’ll be riots, he worries) & getting a one text briefing on things to keep calm with (like working from home, with a loaded fridge & store cupboard & plenty of loo roll, plus a sweater & a pack of candles & matches handy in case.)

    I have to say I find being in a tent in a field quite calming but...
  • It's not Brexit per se that is destroying the peace of mind of the nation it's the time it's taken to get nowhere and the NOT knowing what is going to happen as the deadline date gets ever closer. Most of the discontent is hot air on both sides and healthier (if most objectionable) than action in my view. There were always going to be two polarised sides to the question asked in the referendum and there was always going to be a depth of feeling and resentment towards people who voted differently but the worse thing is actually being in the dark about just what IS going to happen and the actual (not possible or probable or pessimistic) knowledge of it's affects on us the ordinary people in our day to day lives. If we KNOW we can make plans but what you imagine is usually far worse than reality and it's easy to become scared of all of it.
  • Primrose
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    edited 30 August 2019 at 1:09PM
    When you think about it, there will always be two polarised reactions to every public issue and debate under the sun. It's just that in this case the debate has been nationalised so everybody has been drawn in . Once this happens it's bound to become more controversial and more publicly debated.

    40 years ago I voted in the referendum to join the Common Market. Once the issue had been decided I don't recall much rancour. Everybody just accepted the result and got on with their lives.

    Admittedly a number of politicians have sneakily changed the guidelines of what we signed up to over the years with various treaties.

    When this one and dusted I suspect there one outcome that is that the general public may take more interest in politics and what their their politicians get up to in their name. The practices of politicians in recent years, including the expenses scandal , has in my view put people off in engaging in politics because politicians have lost public trust. Perhaps what should have happened is the opposite, and they should be put under even more scrutiny.

    However its not always easy to define what's happening and to be able to take an objective view when many sections of the media are so biased, for one side or the other.
  • All the noise and rancour seems to be from those who voted remain as is likely BUT I've yet to see any counter demonstration by people who are pro-Brexit and that seems unbalanced to me as a not uninterested bystander. I'm actually quite glad there haven't been pro-Brexit rallies and marches as I think that would be the fastest way to civil unrest and rioting that I could imagine and there must be people on the pro side who feel just as passionately for their side of the debate but there are no audible voices from the general populace being given air time in the way the chanting mobs are on every newscast. It leads me to the conclusion that the Media are also not being even handed in their inclusion of the views of those who voted to leave who are not being part of the general debate and that seems unfair if we are a democracy.
  • Primrose
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    I think the Remain protest is now actually at risk of becoming publicly intimidating which worries me.

    I think Leave voters are generally keeping their heads down, and waiting quietly to see what happens. People don,t like to feel they are being threatened or bullied, either physically or morally, and it concerns me that if those in the public eye dont restrain themselves, the situation could get out of hand. We're starting to see some pretty antagonist behaviour from public figures, who should know better. Not a good example in my view. People need to to step back a little and ask what's going on here? .
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