Do road rules still apply when a public highway is closed?

Johno100

AndyMc..... wrote: »

Do you think it’s worthwhile sticking some points on his Kazakhstan licence?

Not sure why a Dane would have a Kazakhstan licence?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-suspends-astana-director-michaelsen-after-tour-de-yorkshire-car-crash/

Mercdriver

Deastons wrote: »

I have a vehicle which is not road-legal, but could I use it on a road once a road closure is in place?

Is this to do with a Yaris being without rear brakes?

Deastons

It seems no-one has been able to give a definitive answer. Can anyone point in the direction of where I can get an answer? Google isn't much help.

Perhaps it's purely at the discretion of the council who action the road closure?

Car_54

Deastons wrote: »

It seems no-one has been able to give a definitive answer. Can anyone point in the direction of where I can get an answer? Google isn't much help.

Perhaps it's purely at the discretion of the council who action the road closure?

Post #13 above gives a link to the legislation which gives a council the power to issue a motor race order.


If the road is closed under such an order, then some parts of the normal legislation will not apply, e.g. road tax, MOT and insurance. But this only applies if:


"a)the participant has been approved by the motor sport governing body that issued a permit in respect of the event or (as the case may be) the official has been authorised by the promoter,

(b)the participant or official complies with any conditions specified in the motor race order that apply to participants or (as the case may be) officials, and

(c)the participant or official also complies with any conditions imposed on him or her by the promoter."



So there is a definitive answer. But I think what you really want is a simple answer, which doesn't exist.

Deastons

Car_54 wrote: »

Post #13 above gives a link to the legislation which gives a council the power to issue a motor race order.


If the road is closed under such an order, then some parts of the normal legislation will not apply, e.g. road tax, MOT and insurance. But this only applies if:


"a)the participant has been approved by the motor sport governing body that issued a permit in respect of the event or (as the case may be) the official has been authorised by the promoter,

(b)the participant or official complies with any conditions specified in the motor race order that apply to participants or (as the case may be) officials, and

(c)the participant or official also complies with any conditions imposed on him or her by the promoter."



So there is a definitive answer. But I think what you really want is a simple answer, which doesn't exist.

That is a definitive answer for occasions that the road is closed for a motor race. In my case, it isn't for a race so it would appear this doesn't apply.

AndyMc.....

Car_54 wrote: »

Post #13 above gives a link to the legislation which gives a council the power to issue a motor race order.


If the road is closed under such an order, then some parts of the normal legislation will not apply, e.g. road tax, MOT and insurance. But this only applies if:


"a)the participant has been approved by the motor sport governing body that issued a permit in respect of the event or (as the case may be) the official has been authorised by the promoter,

(b)the participant or official complies with any conditions specified in the motor race order that apply to participants or (as the case may be) officials, and

(c)the participant or official also complies with any conditions imposed on him or her by the promoter."



So there is a definitive answer. But I think what you really want is a simple answer, which doesn't exist.

How can they be exempt from insurance if it’s a public place?

AdrianC

AndyMc..... wrote: »

How can they be exempt from insurance if it’s a public place?

Because when the road is closed, the RTA ceases to apply, including its requirement for insurance.

Vehicles are then only there by explicit permission - and, in the case of a road closed for competitive motorsport, that includes adherence to a stronger set of regulations (but which do not include insurance requirements). Participants are there at their own risk, and the public are covered by the public liability insurance of the organisers.

Car_54

AndyMc..... wrote: »

How can they be exempt from insurance if it!!!8217;s a public place?

They can be exempt because parliament has decided to make them exempt (Deregulation Act 2015, section 73).

However, before issuing an order, the highway authority must be satisfied that "the applicant has arranged or will arrange appropriate insurance cover in connection with the event, in accordance with guidance issued by the motor sport governing body".

Car_54

Deastons wrote: »

That is a definitive answer for occasions that the road is closed for a motor race. In my case, it isn't for a race so it would appear this doesn't apply.

OK. Is there any chance you might tell us the nature of the closure, or is it a state secret?


You can't really expect to get helpful answers if you don't provide all relevant information.

Nearly_Old

Deastons wrote: »

It seems no-one has been able to give a definitive answer. Can anyone point in the direction of where I can get an answer? Google isn't much help.

Perhaps it's purely at the discretion of the council who action the road closure?

The definitive answer as to nature, extent, duration, etc will be found in the TRO (Traffic Regulation Order) a copy of which will be held as a public record by the local authority, or by the local Highways Agency office for motorways and major trunk roads.