Do road rules still apply when a public highway is closed?

Car_54

Deastons wrote: »

Why would I need insurance? Are you saying I could drive it on the closed road if I had insurance?

Apart from any legal requirement, you need insurance in case you have an accident. Without insurance, how would you deal with a massive personal injury claim?


However, a typical "normal" car insurance policy will exclude


"Any liability, loss or damage caused by the use of your car at any event where your car may be driven:
- in a race - whether formally or informally
- on a motor racing track
- on a de-restricted toll-road
- at an off road event
- whilst greenlining
- on an airfield; or
- on the Nürburgring.


Also when using your car for racing, rallies, pace making, motor sport, hill climbing, speed trials,reliability trials, other trials, competitionsand/or endurance tests"

Johno100

Section 73 of the Deregulation Act 2015 makes certain amendments to the Road Traffic Act 1988 to allow properly constituted motor racing events on public roads, disallowing certain offences.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/20/section/73/enacted

Interestingly there doesn't appear to be any corresponding provisions relating to cycling events.

Deastons

Car_54 wrote: »

Apart from any legal requirement, you need insurance in case you have an accident. Without insurance, how would you deal with a massive personal injury claim?

Going on previous replies, it would seem the issue of insurance is moot as I'm not able to use it during a road closure anyway. I would imagine any insurance I had would be voided the moment I drove it on a public road.

So I guess the next step is to try and figure out how to make it road legal.

AndyMc.....

Deastons wrote: »

Going on previous replies, it would seem the issue of insurance is moot as I'm not able to use it during a road closure anyway. I would imagine any insurance I had would be voided the moment I drove it on a public road.

So I guess the next step is to try and figure out how to make it road legal.

I would make sure you’re allowed to use it at the event and can get insurance for it before you make it road legal.

AdrianC

If the road is open, then the road traffic act applies.
If the road is closed, then motor vehicles cannot be used there, unless the landowner gives consent.


Using an uninsured motor vehicle where there's the potential to come into contact with members of the public is the height of stupidity. That potential is going to be raised when a road is closed for an "event".

Deastons

AdrianC wrote: »

If the road is closed, then motor vehicles cannot be used there, unless the landowner gives consent.

The landowner of the public road being... the council?

We were allowed to use our cars.

onomatopoeia99

Johno100 wrote: »

Section 73 of the Deregulation Act 2015 makes certain amendments to the Road Traffic Act 1988 to allow properly constituted motor racing events on public roads, disallowing certain offences.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/20/section/73/enacted

Interestingly there doesn't appear to be any corresponding provisions relating to cycling events.

Bicycles are not subject to speed limits, for example, so the road traffic act presents far fewer problems that it does for motorsport on public roads using vehicles powered by an engine rather than a human..

Johno100

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

Bicycles are not subject to speed limits, for example, so the road traffic act presents far fewer problems that it does for motorsport on public roads using vehicles powered by an engine rather than a human..

I was thinking more about the support vehicles and those involved in road closures?

I wonder if this driver was ever charged?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7WfVQ2DRQk

AndyMc.....

Johno100 wrote: »

I was thinking more about the support vehicles and those involved in road closures?

I wonder if this driver was ever charged?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7WfVQ2DRQk

Do you think it’s worthwhile sticking some points on his Kazakhstan licence?

Gloomendoom

AdrianC wrote: »

If the road is open, then the road traffic act applies.
If the road is closed, then motor vehicles cannot be used there, unless the landowner gives consent.

The closure could extend to prohibit all road users, including pedestrians, not just motor vehicles.