MSE News: Even more London drivers to face emissions charges from 2021

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NBLondon wrote: »

You mean vehicles that operated above the minimum standard required at the time of manufacture? Maybe there could be a look up in a Type Approval register or something that says a 2009 Wossname is over the limit and pays but a 2010 Wossname is under and is exempt rather than a blanket cut-off for the year. Don't know if there is a master list that covers all manufacturers.

Yes there is a master list, its called the EURO emissions standards and applies to every single new vehicle manufactured from the date the higher Euro emission standard comes into force. So all you have to do is to do what they're doing and to use the Euro standard the vehicle is manufactured to which means you can do it by age and that is how it is being done.

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sevenhills wrote: »

Our MOT system is just a money making scam for garages.

Garages don't make money out of the MOT, if anything it loses them money. There is a maximum test fee of £54.85 and the test must take no less than 45 minutes. Certainly the hourly rate of many garages, especially main dealers, means they're getting less per hour for a MOT than they would be charging out 45 minutes of repairs. They also have to have specific equipment to carry out tests and that equipment must be maintained to a specific minimum standard.

They do it in a hope of gaining extra business from any repair. And before you bleat on about them failing everything to get more business, VOSA send in cars for random checks of MOT stations and a MOT station failing an unusual amount of vehicles would be investigated.

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How will the enforcement work?


I have a pre 2005 car and dont want to spend any money on a newer one. A friend of mine lives just on the inside of the zone to the west.



Are they going to cameras on every road leading into the zone? Really object to paying £25 to visit them.

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Tarambor wrote: »

Garages don't make money out of the MOT, if anything it loses them money. There is a maximum test fee of £54.85

Many garages will do an MOT for £30/£35

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Tarambor wrote: »

Yes there is a master list, its called the EURO emissions standards and applies to every single new vehicle manufactured

All new vehicles do not pass the Euro 6 standard, its just an average, do you think a 1.5 ltr has the same emmissions as a 3 ltr 4x4?

NBLondon

Tarambor wrote: »

Yes there is a master list, its called the EURO emissions standards and applies to every single new vehicle manufactured from the date the higher Euro emission standard comes into force. So all you have to do is to do what they're doing and to use the Euro standard the vehicle is manufactured to which means you can do it by age and that is how it is being done.

Lookng at the TFL website - this is the key phrase that may answer sevenhills's question..

Generally speaking, ULEZ-compliant petrol cars are those registered after 2005. However cars that meet the ULEZ standards have been available since 2000.

The press are focusing on the first para - sevenhills is talking about the second para. No idea what vehicles might come into that category. Another thought - could there be any cases where a Euro-spec version of something meets the standard but a different spec doesn't? Which would mean a grey import looks exempt because it is a 2006 Wossname Turbo but might not actually be under the limit?