any advice for PIP assessment please thank you !?

NoodleSoup

NeilCr wrote: »

It means that is your own assessment of your condition. 20 and 20 are pretty high scores.

I still think a conversation about your condition and how it affects you with someone who has some real PIP experience would help. They might be able to give you an alternative and knowledgable view on which descriptors you are most likely to fit.

well i do not really have time to do that now seeing as it is tomorrow
my assessment is tomorrow
im so sick with nerves
every so often i end up crying every time i think about it
im highly sensitive right now
because im very nervous

poppy12345

I think you've scored yourself extremely high, and still don't fully understand what the descriptors mean. You're interpretation of the physical/mobility part of the descriptors are incorrect.



I totally understand what anxiety is and how it affects people. My daughter suffers with this alongside a learning disability and Autism. I know you can't compare 2 people but the amount of support that she needs to get through each day is a lot.



She's never been out alone and doesn't even have the capacity to even count her own money. She has 100% support at college and also has a Support Worker from social services 3 days per week. She gets anxiety when she goes out and has problems breathing because of it BUT because her physical condition is fine, she can walk perfectly and has no issues what so ever with anything physical. I wouldn't have even dreamed of trying to claim for the moving around part because she simply wouldn't have scored those points.



Managing therapy, as i stated in a previous comment, you won't score those points unless the therapy is done at home. If you go outside for the therapy appointments then you'll score nothing and the most you can score for this will be 1 point.



You should answer those questions truthfully and honestly and not base your assessment on your worst day, if that's not what it is. Whatever others have told you, they're wrong to advice that you do this. If you do this the HCP will see through you and you won't score those points. PIP is about how you are 50% and is about your good days and bad days.



Good luck.

Ames

I hope the assessment today went well.

NoodleSoup

Ames wrote: »

I hope the assessment today went well.

just as we were about to leave
they rang up to cancel because someone was off sick
got another booked
upset me because we prepared
was ready for it
then...
nope sorry not happening now
someone is sick
sorry we will have to re book

:mad::mad::mad:

Ames

That might turn out to be a good thing. You now have more time to read up on the descriptors, which ones fit, and then you'll understand the questions they're asking you more. You can give better answers when you understand the benefit.

NoodleSoup

Ames wrote: »

That might turn out to be a good thing. You now have more time to read up on the descriptors, which ones fit, and then you'll understand the questions they're asking you more. You can give better answers when you understand the benefit.

yeah maybe

hey did you hear the bbc radio 4 money box programme on PIP at the weekend [i think it was on the 9th] it is also available on bbciplayer radio i would post a link but i dont think im allowed anyway it is very VERY interesting

NoodleSoup

Chapters
Personal Independence Payment
Thousands face a wait for backdated payments
DURATION: 13:22

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b5qgp0

info is as follows

Thousands waiting on backdated disability personal independence payments.
Money Box

It emerged this week that thousands of disabled people who claim the mobility element of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) benefits will have to wait until after the end of summer to receive the extra payments backdated from November 2016. Last December the High Court ruled that the Department of Work and Pensions policy in this area had been "blatantly discriminatory against those with mental health impairments." In January the government announced that it would not be appealing against the ruling.

poppy12345

NoodleSoup wrote: »

Chapters
Personal Independence Payment
Thousands face a wait for backdated payments
DURATION: 13:22

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b5qgp0

info is as follows

Thousands waiting on backdated disability personal independence payments.
Money Box

It emerged this week that thousands of disabled people who claim the mobility element of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) benefits will have to wait until after the end of summer to receive the extra payments backdated from November 2016. Last December the High Court ruled that the Department of Work and Pensions policy in this area had been "blatantly discriminatory against those with mental health impairments." In January the government announced that it would not be appealing against the ruling.

This ruling was announced quite a few months ago.

Ames

NoodleSoup wrote: »

yeah maybe

hey did you hear the bbc radio 4 money box programme on PIP at the weekend [i think it was on the 9th] it is also available on bbciplayer radio i would post a link but i dont think im allowed anyway it is very VERY interesting

No, I didn't hear it - I can't concentrate to listen to things on the radio.

I do know the story though. To be honest, I don't think the DWP staff are at fault when it comes to the delay. A ruling was made, they followed it, and now another ruling has been made. It's not a simple thing to rectify, they have to go through many, many claims to decide whether the person qualifies - it's not as simple as telling the computer to spit out a list of names.

They also have to do this whilst dealing with new claims, and not allowing the extra workload to cause lots of delays with those new claims and reassessments.

The government and people at the top of the DWP created the mess, everyone else is just having to try and clean it up with limited resources.

NoodleSoup

Ames wrote: »

No, I didn't hear it - I can't concentrate to listen to things on the radio.

I do know the story though. To be honest, I don't think the DWP staff are at fault when it comes to the delay. A ruling was made, they followed it, and now another ruling has been made. It's not a simple thing to rectify, they have to go through many, many claims to decide whether the person qualifies - it's not as simple as telling the computer to spit out a list of names.

They also have to do this whilst dealing with new claims, and not allowing the extra workload to cause lots of delays with those new claims and reassessments.

The government and people at the top of the DWP created the mess, everyone else is just having to try and clean it up with limited resources.

true

but i just cant help but wonder if this is why my appointment was cancelled and then re booked

also the court ruling that has been set by the high courts since jan 2018 [6 months ago] and the fact the the DWP will not be appealing against the ruling does this not make any assessment with the old way now illegal?

because they should now be assessing anyone with mental health issues the new way because of the new high court ruling so that really should flow in line with anyone who now makes a new claim with mental health issues [listen to the program they explain it much better they also have 2 experts talking on there a disability rights worker Ed Piper and baroness Ros Altmann]

kinda makes sense why the DWP would want to drag their feet [typical] with it maybe they hoping that anyone who has applied and already been assessed [the old way] maybe even been reassessed [the new way] then applied for a MR then maybe even gone onto tribunal will end up giving up because its a massive mess by the DWP
and yes it is a mess
but it still does not make it legal
it is in fact illegal after the high court has ordered it so they now have to put it into practice [or at least keep the finger on the pulse to be seen that they do intend to get the wheels in motion to get the back log sorted and then able to push through any new claims easier and quicker] because it is now the law.

so at my assessment i might ask if it is going to be the old type of assessment or the new one and if it is the old one i might ask if that is even legal

and yes we are aware the new reform have cut jobs in the DWP
but makes you think why is that?
why did the gov do that?
we think it is because they want to make it as hard as possible for anyone who makes a claim for PIP