any advice for PIP assessment please thank you !?

NoodleSoup

poppy12345 wrote: »

For the descriptors you've ticked to use an aid an appliance. An aid an appliance for PIP are things like perching stools, grab rails, bath seats, walking sticks, incontinence pads, levered taps...do you use any of these?

in the PIP form it asks me if i use a dosette box for tablets i do so i answered yes

also i answered yes that i need my main support at home to remind me to take my medications daily

poppy12345 wrote: »

Moving around part is aimed at those with a physical disability, a person that would be unable to walk because of pain and discomfort.You say in your comment above about a physical disability because of your acid reflux, you don't say anywhere that you can't walk because of a physical disability. Not being able to walk because of your anxiety will not score you any points in the moving around part. For mental health it will be the following and planning a journey.
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moving around

i answered a > it varies

and i also answered d > extra information

+!also in that part of the PIP form it does actually mention [i think this is a new part of the form]
and asks the following >

• do you experience any other difficulties, either during or after this activity, like pain, breathlessness, tiredness, dizziness or anxiety?
• tell us about the help you need from another person when moving around. This includes help you have and help you need but dont get.

so this is how i answered d > extra information

it depends on where i am, which depends on how bad my anxiety and stress levels are to how far i can walk because i get breathless, my body tenses up, my heartbeat increases and i loose focus of everything apart from how i am feeling so i cannot move any further, on bad days and unknown areas is a no go.

my lack of appetite also affects my strength, tiredness and these prevent me from moving around as much as i could do normally.

i have put so much more info in the form
[and i keep looking at my copy here]
with the other questions i have answered but im not about to re type it all out here but yes i put as much detail as i could
and just because i did not put it all up here does not mean i have not already put it and tried to describe in a way that is readable to whomever is going to read it at the other end

poppy12345

As i stated, you can't score twice for something in the same descriptor. For this reason it will be impossible for you to score 59 points.

poppy12345

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/fill-in-form/


That link explains all the descriptors.

NoodleSoup

poppy12345 wrote: »

As i stated, you can't score twice for something in the same descriptor. For this reason it will be impossible for you to score 59 points.

but what about the way they lay out the questions in the PIP form some you do answer twice or it seems to look that way they put a numbered question then a,b,c,d,e,f

just one example i can point out here as i am looking at the copy of my own PIP form
Q13a has to be answered
then Q13b that requires and answer
then Q13c also requires and answer
and then Q13d they ask you to tell them more with some
Extra information and that is where you have room to explain in more detail

poppy12345

NoodleSoup wrote: »

but what about the way they lay out the questions in the PIP form some you do answer twice or it seems to look that way they put a numbered question then a,b,c,d,e,f

just one example i can point out here as i am looking at the copy of my own PIP form
Q13a has to be answered
then Q13b that requires and answer
then Q13c also requires and answer
and then Q13d they ask you to tell them more with some
Extra information and that is where you have room to explain in more detail

Makes no difference how many parts you answer to each of those questions. You still can't score points more than once in each descriptor. If this was the case then everyone that applied would most likely be awarded.



If you had taken the time to take the PIP self test i posted in a previous comment, you would have noticed this.
http://www.mybenefitsandwork.co.uk/pip/indexxx.php

poppy12345

You can only score one set of points from each activity, if two or more apply from the same activity only the highest will count. So, for example, if:
4 d. Needs assistance to groom. 2 points
4 g. Needs assistance to bathe. 4 points
both apply you will receive only the 4 points for the !!!8216;Bathing and grooming!!!8217; activity.
This was taken from this link.
http://www.focusondisability.org.uk/personal-independence-payment-PIP-assessment-points.html

NoodleSoup

poppy12345 wrote: »

Makes no difference how many parts you answer to each of those questions. You still can't score points more than once in each descriptor. If this was the case then everyone that applied would most likely be awarded.



If you had taken the time to take the PIP self test i posted in a previous comment, you would have noticed this.
http://www.mybenefitsandwork.co.uk/pip/indexxx.php

actually i have been trying to do and re do this test since you first posted that link and everytime i click on submit it say [E7] COULD NOT FIND a matching form submission instance,

START AGAIN

or the SESSION TIMED OUT

START AGAIN

poppy12345

NoodleSoup wrote: »

actually i have been trying to do and re do this test since you first posted that link and everytime i click on submit it say [E7] COULD NOT FIND a matching form submission instance,

START AGAIN

or the SESSION TIMED OUT

START AGAIN

I just completed it without any issues. Regardless of that, you could actually see during that test that you could only click 1 box for each of the descriptors. This is because you can't score more than once for each one.

NoodleSoup

poppy12345 wrote: »

I just completed it without any issues. Regardless of that, you could actually see during that test that you could only click 1 box for each of the descriptors. This is because you can't score more than once for each one.

right finally was able to complete it

the results are as follows

DAILY LIVING COMPONENT.

You assessed yourself as scoring the following points for the daily living component of PIP:

1 b. Needs to use an aid or appliance to be able to either prepare or cook a simple meal. 2 points
2 d. Needs prompting to be able to take nutrition. 4 points
3 c. Needs supervision, prompting or assistance to be able to manage therapy that takes no more than 3.5 hours a week. 2 points
4 c. Needs supervision or prompting to be able to wash or bathe. 2 points
6 c. Needs either - (i) prompting to be able to dress, undress or determine appropriate circumstances for remaining clothed; or (ii) prompting or assistance to be able to select appropriate clothing. 2 points
7 c. Needs communication support to be able to express or understand complex verbal information. 4 points
9 c. Needs social support to be able to engage with other people. 4 points

Total points: 20

To be eligible for the daily living component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.
You assessed yourself as being eligible for the enhanced rate of the daily living component of PIP

MOBILITY COMPONENT.

You assessed yourself as scoring the following points for the mobility component of PIP:
11 d. Cannot follow the route of an unfamiliar journey without another person, assistance dog or orientation aid. 10 points
12 d. Can stand and then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50 metres. 10 points

Total points: 20

To be eligible for the mobility component of PIP you need to score:
8-11 points to be awarded the standard rate; or
12 points or more to be awarded the higher rate.
You assessed yourself as being eligible for the enhanced rate of the mobility component of PIP.

so i think that means i should be eligible!?!

so maybe i am eligible then???!

NeilCr

It means that is your own assessment of your condition. 20 and 20 are pretty high scores.

I still think a conversation about your condition and how it affects you with someone who has some real PIP experience would help. They might be able to give you an alternative and knowledgable view on which descriptors you are most likely to fit.