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  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,943 Forumite
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    Go back to the post about the officer being on his own.

    If he was then how has he checked the lights?


    Why does he need to? Any consistent malfunction would have come to light (sorry), either by other drivers copying the OP or through fault reports.
  • TonyMMM
    TonyMMM Posts: 3,433 Forumite
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    Go back to the post about the officer being on his own.

    If he was then how has he checked the lights?

    It's really not that difficult .... just stands in a position where you can see both sets of lights (or the traffic being controlled by them). Only takes a few minutes.
  • wgl2014
    wgl2014 Posts: 1,144 Forumite
    If not done at the time this could be done later on if the OP raised a defence disputing the light sequence.

    Whilst this would obviously show the sequence now it could be used along with confirmation that the sequence has not been changed between the offence date and observation.

    Wether or not the prosecution would bother is another question.
  • AndyMc.....
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    wgl2014 wrote: »
    If not done at the time this could be done later on if the OP raised a defence disputing the light sequence.

    Whilst this would obviously show the sequence now it could be used along with confirmation that the sequence has not been changed between the offence date and observation.

    Wether or not the prosecution would bother is another question.


    No it could not.
  • Car_54
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    No it could not.


    Why not?


    As well as the officer's evidence that the lights were working perfectly on date A, the prosecution could bring evidence that they were also working perfectly on dates B and C (before and after the alleged offence) from the maintenance logs, and that there were no malfunctions reported on or near that date.



    The defence would need to raise reasonable doubt, by convincing the court that an unreported malfunction had occurred, the only evidence for which would be the testimony of the defendant, who would be far from independent.
  • wgl2014
    wgl2014 Posts: 1,144 Forumite
    No it could not.

    Any particular reason why?
  • gazzak_2
    gazzak_2 Posts: 473 Forumite
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    Have you got a dashcam OP?
  • AndyMc.....
    AndyMc..... Posts: 3,248 Forumite
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    wgl2014 wrote: »
    Any particular reason why?

    Yes.......
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    edited 29 May 2018 at 12:42PM
    An expert witness could be produced to examine the lights and confirm the correct function.

    That could be really expensive if the op lost. The cps have done it before with "minor" offences so it isn't unheard of.
  • ziggyboy4435
    ziggyboy4435 Posts: 74 Forumite
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    you cant see both sets of lights at same time from any angle , i do not have a dash cam
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