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Driving license sent to our address - owner moved over a decade ago!

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  • JennyP
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    He's been like a brother to me and looks out for my interests and so I look out for his. Not that I see why I should justify myself. I was simply asking for advice on behalf of a friend and appreciate the helpful replies!
  • Pixie5740
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    JennyP wrote: »
    He's been like a brother to me and looks out for my interests and so I look out for his. Not that I see why I should justify myself. I was simply asking for advice on behalf of a friend and appreciate the helpful replies!

    The current owner wants to hand the driving licence over so just let him do that if that's what he wants.
  • MysteryMe
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    JennyP wrote: »
    He's been like a brother to me and looks out for my interests and so I look out for his. Not that I see why I should justify myself. I was simply asking for advice on behalf of a friend and appreciate the helpful replies!


    You are right to be concerned. A driving licence is an important identification document.

    If there was a legitimate reason for this to happen the person whose licence it is or their family would have contacted your friend beforehand and explained the situation and asked if it was OK to use their address. That is normal behavior. What has happened here is not, especially when no satisfactory explanation was given when they were contacted.
  • Cakeguts
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    JennyP wrote: »
    A driving license recently arrived at our address for the previous owner who left way over a decade ago. (You could feel it was a license!)

    I sent it back with a letter saying this person hasn't lived here for x years.

    It apparently belonged to the son of the people who previously owned the house. They recently asked if it had arrived so I said I'd sent it back. They've now written saying that their son cannot change his address with the dvla (I don't follow their longwinded explanation as to why) so they have asked the dvla to send it again to our house.

    I think this is very dodgy.

    Any thoughts? Surely it's fraud to have what is a major piece of id sent to a place where you not only do not live but where you haven't lived for years.

    Can I prevent the dvla issuing a driving license in his name at our house?


    Write to the DVLA saying that their son does not live at your address.

    In order to get a driving licence issued to their son at your address they will have to lie to the DVLA. Once you realise that they are perpared to lie to the DVLA you would want to know who else they are prepared to lie to.

    You do not want to be part of this system of lies so make sure that the DVLA know that you do not want your address used. Write to them and keep a copy of the letter.
  • JennyP
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    Write to the DVLA saying that their son does not live at your address.

    In order to get a driving licence issued to their son at your address they will have to lie to the DVLA. Once you realise that they are perpared to lie to the DVLA you would want to know who else they are prepared to lie to.

    You do not want to be part of this system of lies so make sure that the DVLA know that you do not want your address used. Write to them and keep a copy of the letter.

    Thanks, Cakeguts.
    The dvla have asked for it to be put in writing to a special dept and said that it is also a police issue as it's apparent the police who fine people of their license is at the wrong address.

    I don't want to shop him to the police as it might be an innocent oversight but I will put it in writing to the dvla as requested.
  • Silvertabby
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    edited 5 May 2018 at 1:28PM
    JennyP wrote: »
    Thanks, Cakeguts.
    The dvla have asked for it to be put in writing to a special dept and said that it is also a police issue as it's apparent the police who fine people of their license is at the wrong address.

    I don't want to shop him to the police as it might be an innocent oversight but I will put it in writing to the dvla as requested.

    I can't see how it can be an 'innocent oversight'. The new photo driving licence only lasts 10 years - so he's intentionally renewed his licence using his old address.
  • Red-Squirrel_2
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    JennyP wrote: »
    He's been like a brother to me and looks out for my interests and so I look out for his. Not that I see why I should justify myself. I was simply asking for advice on behalf of a friend and appreciate the helpful replies!

    Do you live there though?
  • Cakeguts
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    JennyP wrote: »
    Thanks, Cakeguts.
    The dvla have asked for it to be put in writing to a special dept and said that it is also a police issue as it's apparent the police who fine people of their license is at the wrong address.

    I don't want to shop him to the police as it might be an innocent oversight but I will put it in writing to the dvla as requested.

    You need to tell the police as well. Your paper trail needs to be very good because now you know that they are all prepared to tell lies about this address you don't know what other lies they telling people and you don't know what the son is using the address on his driving licence for. He could be using this licence as part of his ID for various reasons and it has your address on it. That is a police matter because it is fraud at the DVLA and it could also mean that your address is being used fraudulently which you also don't want.
  • AnnS
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    Hi, not really the same thing but we bought a house from people who work abroad. Throughout the last 6 years since we bought it we!!!8217;ve had bank cards, credit cards, mobile phone bills all sorts of financial items. I!!!8217;ve done a mix of opening the letters and contacting the banks concerned or returning them marked as gone away. Accounts are still !!!8220;live!!!8221; The mobile phone company said it was really strange but unless the account holder contacted them directly they could only put a note on the account. Banks were a combination of please return cards or chop it up. This makes me wonder if their driving licenses are to this address.
  • D_M_E
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    There used to be a scam where people would register various documents at an address with which they had no association then, when the owners went on an extended holiday, convinced an agent to sell the place and disappeared with the proceeds.

    Owner returned to find someone else living there and spent a lot of money getting the property back.

    You need to write on the envelope "moved out 10 years ago, no longer at this address" and put it back in the post, and also, as the DVLA suggested, write to their department that deals with this - I believe they will revoke the licence, thus also invalidating any insurance policy he holds. This alone will eventually attract the attention of the police when he passes an ANPR camera which should flag up the no insurance issue and also the no licence issue when police do a check.

    Another possibility is that he may intend to open, or already has, an account registered at your address with the intention of using it as a mule account - criminals deposit into the account and the account owner moves it on in exchange for a percentage.
    Would the police raid the property in such circumstances searching for evidence of this and while there also search for evidence of drug dealing to account for the deposits?

    Something to consider.
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