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  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    Had eldest son returned home after finishing uni instead of going straight into a rental with a friend, I would have had no choice but to expect some sort of payment in return. There is absolutely no way I would have been able to cover the increase in council tax (single person discount would have been removed), the increase in the food bill, the increase in gas and electric and so on and so forth. For me, it would have been a massive increase in outgoings and something I just wouldn't have had the money to cover.

    It's not me being tightfisted or wanting to teach a lesson but simple maths, the outgoings due to the increase in costs would have outweighed my income.

    In the end his grad job made the decision for us, it would have been a too costly and annoying commute to work for him...plus he rather fancied the idea of being able to run around naked with a girl in his own space rather than risk mum walking in at any moment.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • Tabbytabitha
    Tabbytabitha Posts: 4,684 Forumite
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    cyantist wrote: »
    If my parents had charged me and my husband rent when we lived with them for 15 months, we wouldn't have been able to save that money towards a house deposit which would have meant that rather than it taking 15 months to save the deposit, it might have taken twice as long.

    I already knew how to live in the real world, and had managed to budget perfectly well for the 3 years I was at Uni.

    It is harder to buy a house now than it ever has been in the past and I'm very grateful to my parents that they did what they could to make it easier for me.

    I'm glad you're grateful but I'm surprised that your huband would live in your family's home without contributing anything, even if you were happy to do so.
  • svain
    svain Posts: 516 Forumite
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    I think some parents struggle with jealousy, and to compensate charge "board" .... dressing it up as a life lesson
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,564 Ambassador
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    SingleSue wrote: »
    Had eldest son returned home after finishing uni instead of going straight into a rental with a friend, I would have had no choice but to expect some sort of payment in return. There is absolutely no way I would have been able to cover the increase in council tax (single person discount would have been removed), the increase in the food bill, the increase in gas and electric and so on and so forth. For me, it would have been a massive increase in outgoings and something I just wouldn't have had the money to cover.

    It's not me being tightfisted or wanting to teach a lesson but simple maths, the outgoings due to the increase in costs would have outweighed my income.

    There is a big difference between charging the extra it is going to cost you and making a profit on the charging.
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  • Tabbytabitha
    Tabbytabitha Posts: 4,684 Forumite
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    silvercar wrote: »
    There is no guarantee that your children will live with you as adults, so no one can budget for them making a contribution to your bills.

    If you do charge them, you are receiving money over and above what you expected, so if what you charge is more than the extra it costs, you are profiting off your children. I don't see why anyone would want to do that.

    They're not contributing to your bills, they're contributing to theirs. Another adult joining the household (much less two!) will add something to your costs, even if you think it won't, Just as two people can't live as cheaply as one, neither can three live as cheaply as four or four as three.
  • cyantist
    cyantist Posts: 560 Forumite
    I'm glad you're grateful but I'm surprised that your huband would live in your family's home without contributing anything, even if you were happy to do so.

    Obviously we offered. But his money is my money, so if they had taken money off my husband they'd be taking it off me and the end result would have been the same: we wouldn't have been able to afford to buy our house. Had they been able to afford to they would have given us money towards a deposit, instead this was a way they could afford to help.

    I really don't see why you'd let your child stay in your house for free, but not their spouse.

    Also I struggle to see how there is any extra cost of having extra people there (as long as they buy their own food). My parents closely kept an eye on all bills and they didn't increase and they didn't want to be making money off us.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,564 Ambassador
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    They're not contributing to your bills, they're contributing to theirs. Another adult joining the household (much less two!) will add something to your costs, even if you think it won't, Just as two people can't live as cheaply as one, neither can three live as cheaply as four or four as three.

    It may add a small amount to costs, but fairly marginal. I choose to live in an older style house, that requires more than average heating costs; why should I expect my children to pay a share of that? Costs that I expect to pay anyway!
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • Tabbytabitha
    Tabbytabitha Posts: 4,684 Forumite
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    silvercar wrote: »
    It may add a small amount to costs, but fairly marginal. I choose to live in an older style house, that requires more than average heating costs; why should I expect my children to pay a share of that? Costs that I expect to pay anyway!

    When our teenager left home, our outgoings went down by around £70pw, including food. One (or two!) extra showers a day, several extra loads of washing/tumble drying, an extra room to be heated, possibly outside the hours the house is normally heated - it all adds up.

    That's why the government pays £70/80 pw in tax credits and CB to low income families because having a young person at home costs money.
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    cyantist wrote: »
    Obviously we offered. But his money is my money, so if they had taken money off my husband they'd be taking it off me and the end result would have been the same: we wouldn't have been able to afford to buy our house. Had they been able to afford to they would have given us money towards a deposit, instead this was a way they could afford to help.

    I really don't see why you'd let your child stay in your house for free, but not their spouse.

    Also I struggle to see how there is any extra cost of having extra people there (as long as they buy their own food). My parents closely kept an eye on all bills and they didn't increase and they didn't want to be making money off us.

    My gas, water and electric usage and bills increase hugely when the boys come back from university and drop right down again when they go back!
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,564 Ambassador
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    That's why the government pays £70/80 pw in tax credits and CB to low income families because having a young person at home costs money.

    Some of that will be to fund clothes, getting to and from school, school lunches, extra curricular activities etc all things that young adults will fund for themselves.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
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