Letter Before Claim - UKPPO

KeithP

MIL = www.milcollections.co.uk/parking.html

Elmo111

Forgive me if I sound ignorant/confused, but this seems like a whole other side to this parking scandal than I originally was aware of - so there is a chance that UKPPO could just sell this debt off to these MIL characters and that's an accepted next step?

What happened to the court procedures that Karen said that she would issue?

I feel like this whole thing is going from bad to worse

KeithP

Karen was telling fibs.

You needn't worry about MIL. You asked who they were. I told you. That's all.

As C-M said in post #49, you are unlikely to see any court claim from UKPPO.

System

you are unlikely to see any court claim from UKPPO

What happened to the court procedures that Karen said that she would issue?

Unlikely but not impossible. Parking companies tend to try for default CCJ by sending claims at holiday times - and May is one of the their key times. So keep a watch on your mail for anything from a court.

Elmo111

Just got home and i've unfortunately got the letter from the county court.

It has a claim number on which starts with the letter E.

Redx

it wont be from your county court

it will be an MCOL from the CCBC in Northampton

now do the AOS after reading post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread

then draft your defence and post it on here for critique

Elmo111

Just curious about something that's on the claim form from UKPPO:

hxxp://!!!!!!/UKPPOCFORM

Is this interest at 8% valid? Can they add interest on a debt that doesn't exist?

As you'd imagine this is completely new territory for me so I apologise if I appear useless at times. It's a lot to take in and clearly quite a battle ahead - but I'm enthusiastic about it to say the least.

Just to throw back to my initial post, I'm not disputing the 4 initial charges, I'm disputing not being notified AT ALL, be it a PCN, an NTK, debt collectors letters etc. So my intentions are to "defend part of this claim" during the AOS?

@Redx, I'm having a look at post #2 as suggested.

Thanks once again for everybody's support on the matter.

Redx

as I thought , its from the Business Centre, a government office in Northampton , NOT from a county court (the county court (yours) has not been allocated yet)

live link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1df5E3x07htz2kt18rZh54eg_agmndGyV/view

the thing is that you ARE disputing these charges because as keeper you are not liable for them UNLESS they can prove they followed POFA2012 which they clearly havent

in which case their case would fail on POFA2012 alone so as keeper you are disputing that YOU owe a penny never mind what they are claiming, in which case any outstanding pcn,s should be taken up with the driver

so yes you are not necessarily disputing that a driver may owe for 4 pcn,s , but you as KEEPER are disputing that it has anything to do with you and therefore you are disputing that these charges apply to YOU

this may seem pedantic but this is legal territory and they cannot hold a keeper liable unless they follow the law that came into force 5.5 years ago

so I would say you are defending all of this claim because as keeper you are not liable , so FRO and chase the driver who shall not be named (to put it bluntly)

they can and do add on all kinds of charges and costs but it is the judge who decides what is payable, if it actually gets before a judge in your county court

Umkomaas

Elmo111 wrote: »

Just curious about something that's on the claim form from UKPPO:

hxxp://!!!!!!/UKPPOCFORM

As you've now got 24 posts to your name, I think you should now have 'linking' privileges. No more 'hxxp' for you, you should be able to post live links.

Elmo111

Redx wrote: »

as I thought , its from the Business Centre, a government office in Northampton , NOT from a county court (the county court (yours) has not been allocated yet)

live link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1df5E3x07htz2kt18rZh54eg_agmndGyV/view

the thing is that you ARE disputing these charges because as keeper you are not liable for them UNLESS they can prove they followed POFA2012 which they clearly havent

in which case their case would fail on POFA2012 alone so as keeper you are disputing that YOU owe a penny never mind what they are claiming, in which case any outstanding pcn,s should be taken up with the driver

so yes you are not necessarily disputing that a driver may owe for 4 pcn,s , but you as KEEPER are disputing that it has anything to do with you and therefore you are disputing that these charges apply to YOU

this may seem pedantic but this is legal territory and they cannot hold a keeper liable unless they follow the law that came into force 5.5 years ago

so I would say you are defending all of this claim because as keeper you are not liable , so FRO and chase the driver who shall not be named (to put it bluntly)

they can and do add on all kinds of charges and costs but it is the judge who decides what is payable, if it actually gets before a judge in your county court

Just reading some of my previous correspondence to Karen - on one of my longer replies, I said

"To reiterate once more, the PCN's in question have not been ignored - just your correspondence around each PCN that's not been received. I understand the error in not displaying a permit. Could you please tell me the initial cost of each PCN?"

Do you think, in theory, I've done myself damage by saying that? Of course in my mind, I was trying to come to a resolution on the matter, promptly and correctly.