Can my daughter throw me out of my home?

silvercar

christmas_carole wrote: »

I will get an appointment with a solicitor asap and yes I will move out at the end of my tennancy agreement but I want my £45000 back plus tenants improvements percentage less the underpayment of rent. I think thats really fair.

It may be fair, but she won't be able to magic up £45k from nowhere and she already has a mortgage on the property.

need_an_answer

parkrunner wrote: »

You seem to have missed all that happened prior to the mother and her ex getting back together. The false promises that had already been broken before the reunion.

I clearly have missed the back story,it's not in this thread and is only given from the mothers point of view.

To me it appears as a situation where the OP needs to make a choice between ex partner (whom I still maintain must have been an ex for some reason) and her daughter who rents her a property that she has an interest in.

My gut feeling is that if the ex now current partner were not around then things would return to normal,whatever that is but clearly both women believe they are in the right.

It could prove a very costly business for the mother to reclaim her money from her daughter and cause irreparable damage to their relationship in the process but the OP is clearly taken by this man so whom are we to stand in the way of "true love"!

The thing that doesn't add up for me potentially is why the ex partner who is moving in doesn't want to start afresh with the OP and take their combined incomes and set up a completely new home together.
The OP says she can't afford to rent at market value on her own bit she wouldn't be,surely he would contribute to the rental or bills etc?
or is it a case that he is a man of a certain age that has nothing to show in terms of savings or indeed a job with which to aid the supporting of them both.

When you start to look at it from that perspective then in some form I could share any concerns that the daughter has over a man whom she may see as someone "jumping in to take advantage" not only of her mother but the cheaper rent scenario that the daughter agreed specifically for her mother.

TBH its one of those threads where the dual input of the daughters side of the story would be very interesting.

christmas_carole

Clutterfree wrote: »

I *think* the OP meant if she'd have spent all her money buying a property outright then there would be no savings left to do it up.

By giving her daughter more than enough for a deposit, her daughter bought it with a buy to let mortgage.

This then left the OP with enough money (her savings) to do up the house.

She didn't mind spending her savings because she thought she'd be living there for the rest of her life.

If the OP had known she wasn't unable to live there for the rest of her life, as agreed verbally with her daughter, then she


wouldn't have entered into the agreement or spent the money doing it up.

Shame nothing was agreed in writing via a solicitor.

You have got it... yes no other intention, I helped my daughter, thought I'd be there for life or would never have spent so much on the house, would never have given her £45.000 would have rented one of her properties that she is continuing to buy on a regular basis and paid her full rent, then she would have renovated it and I would still have my savings.
I have been in touch with and had a long conversation with a solicitor who was very helpful and I am following her instructions right now..

christmas_carole

FBaby wrote: »

Something doesn't ring right here. You've lived there for 2 years so must have sold not long before that. So how can you then say you've split up with him 8 years ago and have know your current partner for many years? Or is there another partner in the middle?

As we don't know anything about your partner's crime, it's hard to comment as to whether your daughter as good reasons or not to be concerned about him moving in. However, there are many stories about boyfriends who move in, pay nothing, but when things go sour, refuse to leave saying that they have a right to be there, even when their name is not on the tenancy. Getting them out through court can be a complete nightmare. Maybe your daughter has concerns that this could happen.

That seems like a fair compromise and definitely one to suggest to her.

I was with previous partner for eight years, we broke up Easter 2015, I stayed in the house while it was on the market and moved out once it sold in December 2015, I met new/current partner February 2016, 10 months after my split.

christmas_carole

need_an_answer wrote: »

I clearly have missed the back story,it's not in this thread and is only given from the mothers point of view.

To me it appears as a situation where the OP needs to make a choice between ex partner (whom I still maintain must have been an ex for some reason) and her daughter who rents her a property that she has an interest in.

My gut feeling is that if the ex now current partner were not around then things would return to normal,whatever that is but clearly both women believe they are in the right.

It could prove a very costly business for the mother to reclaim her money from her daughter and cause irreparable damage to their relationship in the process but the OP is clearly taken by this man so whom are we to stand in the way of "true love"!

The thing that doesn't add up for me potentially is why the ex partner who is moving in doesn't want to start afresh with the OP and take their combined incomes and set up a completely new home together.
The OP says she can't afford to rent at market value on her own bit she wouldn't be,surely he would contribute to the rental or bills etc?
or is it a case that he is a man of a certain age that has nothing to show in terms of savings or indeed a job with which to aid the supporting of them both.

When you start to look at it from that perspective then in some form I could share any concerns that the daughter has over a man whom she may see as someone "jumping in to take advantage" not only of her mother but the cheaper rent scenario that the daughter agreed specifically for her mother.

TBH its one of those threads where the dual input of the daughters side of the story would be very interesting.

Why should I move? I have done nothing wrong, I have stuck with the agreement, paid my rent, improved the property, look after it and have spent over £30k that I would like to get the benefit of, I'm a 60 year old woman, I shouldn't have to justify myself, I havent broken any terms or agreement, he has lived there with me before, we arent hurting anyone, I just want to live my life the way it was promised to me and enjoy my home that I've invested heavily into.

k3lvc

christmas_carole wrote: »

Why should I move? I have done nothing wrong, I have stuck with the agreement, paid my rent, improved the property, look after it and have spent over £30k that I would like to get the benefit of, I'm a 60 year old woman, I shouldn't have to justify myself, I havent broken any terms or agreement, he has lived there with me before, we arent hurting anyone, I just want to live my life the way it was promised to me and enjoy my home that I've invested heavily into.

I'm not sure anyone disputes this - they are however tryng to explain the difficulties in you claiming this retrospecively given the actions you've taken (i.e. paying rent when none due, signing tenancy agreement when none needed, entering into agreement with nothing in writing etc)


Personally I'm not seeing this ending in the way you're hoping but it's down to legal powers now and what your solicitor advises

need_an_answer

christmas_carole wrote: »

Why should I move? I have done nothing wrong, I have stuck with the agreement, paid my rent, improved the property, look after it and have spent over £30k that I would like to get the benefit of, I'm a 60 year old woman, I shouldn't have to justify myself, I havent broken any terms or agreement, he has lived there with me before, we arent hurting anyone, I just want to live my life the way it was promised to me and enjoy my home that I've invested heavily into.

The way I see it is that yes you had an agreement with your Daughter to rent the property,you improved it fine,but there is clearly an issue between your ex/current partner and your daughter who is in effect you LL.

I agree you should be able to live your life as you want and in real terms it's none of the LL's business who you allow to move into the property with you.
However it's not that clear cut when the LL is also your daughter.There are clearly emotional undertones that seem to be preventing you both from seeing the arrangement as a business arrangement.

Perhaps its just the ugly side of renting to family,both have more emotional interest in the property and its occupants than the standard LL/tenant agreement.
The only profiteers here are the solicitors who may well end up in a costly legal battle between you and your daughter.

christmas_carole

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Not really, it might be something that the mother was a victim of, or that the daughter and her family could potentially be at risk of being victims.

I don't think I can pass judgement without that info tbh.

EDIT: Although having read the rest of the thread the timeline and details are very hazy, no idea what's actually going on!

How are the time lines hazy?
I've been very precise, house sold December 2015, moved into rented house having transferred £45000 into my daughters bank account December 2015.


Spent the next six months putting in new kitchen, bathroom, rear drive and double gates for secure off road car parking,
(I asked if they would contribute to this but they refused)
I turned the jungle of a garden into a beautiful paved courtyard, back front and side. I had a dog then so it had to be dog friendly and safe.The whole house was redecorated, fitted robes put in two bedrooms and carpeted, not a cheap fix but an investment in my 'Forever' home.


Not 'Tarted up' as someone on here said.

gycraig_2

Your daughter is totally screwing you over and if this goes how I think it!!!8217;s goinf to go I would never speak to her again she!!!8217;s using your good will to manipulate you

need_an_answer

If you had to choose between maintaining a relationship with your daughter or with the ex who is now part of your life again,which would it be?

Difficult moral question I appreciate but one that I believe is the whole pin to this thread.

We know you daughters feelings towards your partner,but what does he think of her?