Can my daughter throw me out of my home?

Mojisola

christmas_carole wrote: »

Well obviously I don't think I'm naive.
Trusting your eldest daughter to stick to her word and believing I was safe in that house was something I did without thinking. I never dreamt she could do this.

That shows your naivety.

Any such agreement has to be to writing to cover all eventualities - what if your daughter had died before you - a written agreement would have dealt with such possibilities.

Mojisola

christmas_carole wrote: »

Before moving in the rent free arrangement changed to £150 a month which I queried as that wasnt the original agreeement.

It was then agreed if I reinstated a back door, (There wasn't one) at the cost of £1500 I could pay £100, which I agreed to.

I have just signed a tenancy agreement in January for two years.

lisyloo wrote: »

Isn't £30K spend on the property an argument on the OPs side that on balance of probability that there was an agreement to stay there long term?

Which the OP has gone against at least three times - it's hard to argue that you believe you have the right to live in a house rent free for life when you have been paying rent and have signed a legal tenancy document.

need_an_answer

fairy_lights wrote: »

What did he do? If it was a violent crime I can understand your daughters anger.

What he did I think is irrelevant.

What he is,is what the daughter I believe objects to.

It is not uncommon for an older child to want to protect their parent and support them,but it can also be a way of controlling them too.

The way I read this is that the daughter is happy to help mum out in fact probably views it as a good arrangement but once you add the new partner to the mix she clearly has an issue with that.
Whether the issue is with that particular partner or just a partner in general is what mum needs to establish.

My gut feeling is if the partner wasn't there the issue with the property would die away too.

Your daughter is quite blatantly making a stand to make you choose between your ex partner or the house.

does your partner have a property?
Is that partly the issue that she does not want to extend the preferential rent to him,or is it possible you could look to move in with him?

hazyjo

Could always say you've split up, then sort your tenancy for life. Daughter doesn't sound so naïve as to believe that though so depends how convincing you are. She'll prob want something written into the agreement to say he can't move in.


Not one for lying, but then I'm not one for booting my own mother out of her home after lying to her about her tenancy.


Good luck. Truly awful thread - one that will stay with me for quite a while. Hope you get it sorted.

Pixie5740

Sounds bonkers to me that someone would give away all this money without first securing a roof over their own head. Sounds even more bonkers to rely on a verbal agreement when you've already been burned by family and verbal agreements (sister and inheritance) in the past.

If you've got ££££ to spend tarting up a property you don't even own then rather than relying on CAB and a friend who's a conveyancer stick your hand in your pocket and seek legal advice from someone who does specialise in this area of law.

newatc

One view of ths is that your daughter is subsidising your rent, albeit she has received a lump sum from you, but now faces the prospect of effectively allowing someone she disapproves of and dislikes to live in her property.
I am not saying that I agree with her actions but that view perhaps gives a different slant on it.

Whatever if it is important to you to remain in the property at reduced rent with your partner then I can only see two options. Try to talk directly to your daughter to find an agreement or speak to a solicitor (I'm not sure about the friend - trying to help doesn't sound too encouraging somehow).

lisyloo

what if your daughter had died before you - a written agreement would have dealt with such possibilities.

There are many other scenarios.

Daughter in a coma or long term care home.
Divoring partner wants half.
Benefits people or litigants think they can sell the property.
Daughter falls on hard times and needs to sell.

etc. etc.

MobileSaver

christmas_carole wrote: »

on the understanding that one would be for me to live in rent free for the rest of my life.

Before moving in the rent free arrangement changed to £150 a month ... I have just signed a tenancy agreement in January for two years.

Sorry, this doesn't make any sense. Why would you sign a two year agreement or pay £150 a month if the original agreement was "rent free for the rest of your life?"

christmas_carole wrote: »

BUT she submits a false tenancy agreement to her mortgage provider saying I am paying full rent too and they also don't know I am her Mother, so a bit of mortgage fraud happening here too?

The very fact that you know such details suggests that you were fully complicit in this mortgage fraud and this is all unravelling only because you and your daughter have fallen out. Sounds very much like Karma to me.

christmas_carole

fairy_lights wrote: »

What did he do? If it was a violent crime I can understand your daughters anger.

No it was not anything like that, he is not a violent man at all.

need_an_answer

Why did you sell your home originally?
and who suggested the input into a property owned by your daughter?

I am wondering if there was an inclination that by selling your property and handing over the proceeds you could be seen as selling off your assets to avoid something in the future.


Hard as it seems too many times we read threads that start with
How can I give my property to my child/is it a good idea/it seems like it now.

this is just the sour end of that deal where the controlling child is now enforcing additional conditions on the parent.

very sad.