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MSE News: TV licence costs to increase from April
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Do you mean that "One in seven" are LIKELY to be assaulted, or have been assaulted?House_Martin wrote: »To balance out this bias, one in seven Capita tv licence officers are likely to be assaulted or savaged by dogs, deliberately, every year doing their jobs.
The BBC's figures, released under FOI, state that the following number of assaults on TVL staff have been recorded...
2013: 30
2014: 44
2015: 95
In each year, TVL staff are making around 4 million attempted house calls, so whilst any violence is to be deplored, percentage-wise it is vanishingly rare.
They also say that those figures include "any physical contact" by a member of the Public - so (a) that could be quite minor, and (b) it could include the legitimate use of physical force to eject a trespasser. A trivial amount of effort would be involved in properly monitoring, analysing, prosecuting and reporting on such relatively small numbers. The fact that (according to FOI) it is not happening tends to suggest that despite its PR protestations, in reality the BBC cares little about it, or at the very least it understands that the legally dubious position that it places TVL operatives in would make it a pointless exercise.
That seems highly implausible. Do you have a source? I know for a fact that Eire is worse than the UK.The UK is the world capital for thieving chavs who would laugh at the thought of actually paying for a TV licence.
You understand that saying nothing and pointing one's camera at someone in your own home are both perfectly legal? If TVL operatives do not like it, the law presumes that they will leave. If they do not leave when instructed, they are trespassing and can be removed using reasonable force. That's a rough summary of the relevant law. If you find that law unpalatable, I suggest you take it up with your MP.They just get advice from the TV licence advice websites in how to deal with TVL . One lady ( in my job delivering TV licence reminders ) told me that the best thing to do with some nosey Capita employee is to say nothing and point your camera phone at them ! they toddle off fast .Easy .
So, 271 assaults over a period of 6 years? 6 years when they would have made c. 24 million attempted house calls. That's 0.0011%... just so you know.Honest people who do not need a licence are not likely to turn aggressive when asked politely about their tv viewing habits.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10524889/TV-licence-inspectors-three-times-more-likely-to-be-attacked-by-a-householder-than-an-animal.html
IF violence is deemed to be a problem (it doesn't sound like it), then there is a simple answer - don't go round to people's homes to lie to them, bully them, interrogate them and undermine their legal rights. It really is that simple, and it's disappointing that the allegedly august BBC doesn't seem to have recognised it. (Though like I said, their actions suggest that they are fairly cynical about the issue of violence against their operatives - once you cut through the PR nonsense).
To be clear (and though the moment has passed), MSE does not condone or encourage law-breaking (and nor do any other forums that I have come across).To all the rugby union fans who do not possess a tv licence, enjoy the match today, I know you will ! BBC today at 4.45 pm kick off. Scotland v England..likely to be a great match0 -
£130 a month? Blimey. You need to earn more than £2K a year before tax to pay for that. Makes the BBC look like a bargain.And fortunately I do earn more than 2K a year and so does everyone I know lol.. I know you probably meant 2k/month.
I didn't mean £2K a month. I'm saying more than £2K of your gross annual wages/salary is needed to pay Sky.0 -
That's not the way it works. The BBC (unlike newspapers) is obliged by law to be unbiased, and if it weren't it would have been closed down.
If there were any credible evidence that would have happened long ago, because the right-wing press, media and organisations such as the one referred to here would have seen to it.
There is no credible evidence, but if you can provide some the BBC will be closed down. It's for the person making the allegations to provide the evidence, and you haven't managed to do that - for a good reason. There isn't any.
I think the notion of the BBC being closed down for a less than perfect record on impartiality is a little naive. The reality is that cultural bias (a la BBC News or C4 News) is something that a broadcaster will easily get away with. I think that it would have to reach Fox News style false reporting and opinion-pieces posing as news for OFCOM to take an interest.
Logically, it must be this way: the country is hugely divided over certain issues, and a given media organisation is typically going to pick a single position (whether that is one extreme or the other, or somewhere in between). Whatever that position is, it is highly unlikely to reflect all other views with equal prominence. In the case of Brexit, BBC and C4 news (as best I can tell) dont't even seem to be trying.
I should say that this is in the new world of news reporting, which is a fair way from the reportage of the past, when news would report facts in a truly detached way. Not necessarily balanced, but certainly far enough detached for there to be a good chance of achieving it.0 -
House Martin, I'm now certain you are simply a Public relations employee of the Corrupt corporation. Probably an Alta-ego of ASH_M1.0
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House Martin, I'm now certain you are simply a Public relations employee of the Corrupt corporation. Probably an Alta-ego of ASH_M1.
Since almost all of your posts since you signed up to MSE have related in some way to your personal campaign against the BBC and the TV licence, I'm not sure you're in a position to be accusing someone else of bias! And it's alter ego, by the way.0 -
Cornucopia wrote: »In the case of Brexit, BBC and C4 news (as best I can tell) dont't even seem to be trying.
Hmm, I can only go on what I read in the press or hear on the radio, but the amount of attention that superannuated old fools like Norman Lamont and Nigel "no, let me speak" Farage get would suggest that they are at least trying. The specific issue with Brexit is that no one is clear what it means and what will happen, even those for it, so the subject is ripe for satire. Any questioning or criticism and immediately the messenger gets jumped on.
Anyway, it's always good to get your excellently technical views on the issue, to hear House Martin's charmless rants (and wonder why there aren't more assaults!) and the usual right-wing anti-BBC whinges.0 -
I do like the BBC but it does come across that they have a left wing bias now that was not evident before.
They also had a lot to answer for regarding Jimmy Saville.
They have also been quite sexist. I can remember when they replaced the older women newscasters and not the men.
They also replaced the older women presenter on countryfile and replace her with a younger model and the same with Arlene Phillips on strictly.
To say nothing of the recent high profile pay differences.
How have they got away with it for so long?0 -
Did I use the word "Bias" ? Look hard at my post.Since almost all of your posts since you signed up to MSE have related in some way to your personal campaign against the BBC and the TV licence, I'm not sure you're in a position to be accusing someone else of bias! And it's alter ego, by the way.
But I do strongly support the TVL resistance forum. It is not personal, just a joint desire to Either sort out the BBC, or get rid of the corrupt corporation, from the UK.
Just ask the thousands, criminalised every year by the BBC, because the BBC refuse to update to Subscription funding.
If the BBC, is so loved by all, it's users will flock to subscribe - but others may not, it is called choice Doc N.. Something denied by the TVL model.0 -
Just get rid of the TV Licence - and then fund the BBC from general taxation.
Can then get rid of the TV licencing mob and still p off the hysterical rightie loonies like the first couple of posters on this thread.
Win - win. :beer:Not even wrong0 -
AH, the LEFT wing loonie answer - Nationalise everything..... & everyone pays for what YOU want....Just get rid of the TV Licence - and then fund the BBC from general taxation.
Can then get rid of the TV licencing mob and still p off the hysterical rightie loonies like the first couple of posters on this thread.
Win - win. :beer:
Very democratic - NOT.:eek:0
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