Parking - new build

50Twuncle

I was of the assumption that all new build property developments HAD to provide 0.75 OFF STREET car parking spaces per property ...
But there is a new development near me - with 400+ houses - with less than 10% provided with their own off street spaces
The rest are going to have to park where they can (on the surrounding roads) - and with many 2 car (and more) families, these days - havoc is going to be caused ?

AdrianC

50Twuncle wrote: »

I was of the assumption that all new build property developments HAD to provide 0.75 OFF STREET car parking spaces per property ...

Locally? Nationally?
On average?

But there is a new development near me - with 400+ houses - with less than 10% provided with their own off street spaces

And where is that? Different local authorities have different guidelines.

The rest are going to have to park where they can (on the surrounding roads) - and with many 2 car (and more) families, these days - havoc is going to be caused ?

That's... nice.

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/planning-update-march-2015

Big_Eric,_two_elections_ago wrote:

Parking: helping local shops and preventing congestion

This government is keen to ensure that there is adequate parking provision both in new residential developments and around our town centres and high streets.

The imposition of maximum parking standards under the last administration lead to blocked and congested streets and pavement parking. Arbitrarily restricting new off-street parking spaces does not reduce car use, it just leads to parking misery. It is for this reason that the government abolished national maximum parking standards in 2011. The market is best placed to decide if additional parking spaces should be provided.

However, many councils have embedded the last administration's revoked policies. Following a consultation, we are now amending national planning policy to further support the provision of car parking spaces. Parking standards are covered in paragraph 39 of the National Planning Policy Framework. The following text now needs to be read alongside that paragraph: "Local planning authorities should only impose local parking standards for residential and non-residential development where there is clear and compelling justification that it is necessary to manage their local road network."

Building on the success of our previous guidance to help householders rent out under-used car parking spaces, we have also updated planning guidance to local authorities to clarify that non-residential car parking space can be rented out. This will support the shared economy and increase the provision of competitively priced car parking spaces.

daveyjp

It depends on local development policies and street design guides.

IIRC our local Council has a requirement for 2 off street per property which can include a garage of minimum size 6m x 3m.

Larac

Is it not down to what the local council specifies and can therefore vary? When we extended our house, we had to have a minimum of three car spaces on the drive as the extension made the house 4 bed house. The new builds in my village technically have two parking spaces but one is a garage which is not big enough to get a normal size car in and no surprise to see cars parked on pavements.

davidmcn

50Twuncle wrote: »

I was of the assumption that all new build property developments HAD to provide 0.75 OFF STREET car parking spaces per property ...

Can you provide a link to wherever you got your assumption from?

But there is a new development near me - with 400+ houses - with less than 10% provided with their own off street spaces

Whereabouts? Have you looked at the planning papers? Presumably they discussed transport there, which might give you a clue.

agrinnall

50Twuncle wrote: »

I was of the assumption that all new build property developments HAD to provide 0.75 OFF STREET car parking spaces per property ...

If that were true how would develeopments that require their purchasers not to own a car be permitted? I fear you have been talking to the proverbial "bloke down the pub".

hazyjo

There's a development at Highams Park, E4 where they're converting an old cinema into a small cinema and flats. People keep asking on the local boards about parking and the general consensus is that Waltham Forest are still under the impression that people will take to bikes with their 'mini-Holland scheme' (lots of cycle lanes, one way systems, road closures, etc).


Utterly deluded. Going to be around 50 new residents with no allocation (or little) for parking for residents and visitors. The area struggles with parking as it is. It's hell round there!


It does seem to depend on the council. WF are convinced people won't need their cars and are doing everything they can to discourage people to use them.


Thank God I moved lol.

davidmcn

hazyjo wrote: »

Utterly deluded. Going to be around 50 new residents with no allocation (or little) for parking for residents and visitors. The area struggles with parking as it is. It's hell round there!

In theory this isn't too bad if there's a resident permit scheme, with only the "original" properties qualifying for permits and the newcomers having to find their own off-street parking (you can't realistically live there and shift your car every 4 hours to another pay and display space).

gingercordial

50Twuncle wrote: »

I was of the assumption that all new build property developments HAD to provide 0.75 OFF STREET car parking spaces per property ...
But there is a new development near me - with 400+ houses - with less than 10% provided with their own off street spaces
The rest are going to have to park where they can (on the surrounding roads) - and with many 2 car (and more) families, these days - havoc is going to be caused ?

Absolutely not true. It will depend on the council. Where I live (north London) developments specifically say they have a much lower ratio of parking spaces than that in order to push people to get rid of/not have cars and use public transport instead.

Just having a look at a current development on the council's planning portal (this one is in Tottenham) it says:

"Policy DM32 of the DPD; as outlined within Chapter 2 sets out that LBH [London Borough of Haringey] will support proposals for new development with limited or no car parking where there are alternative and accessible means of transport available. Equally, the London Plan (2016) promotes development in areas of good public transport accessibility should aim for significantly less than 1 space per unit." (Emphasis mine)

And:

"Tottenham Hale Public Transport interchange offers numerous National Rail, London Underground and London Bus services. Therefore, it is reasonable to suggest that a reduced car parking provision is both acceptable in terms of local policy and unlikely to affect mobility of future residents."

And:

"The Site therefore seeks to provide a scheme with reduced parking provision on site comprised by accessible parking provision allocated to the accessible/adaptable dwellings with a notional allowance of standard parking spaces for private sale."

Further into the transport plan document (67 pages!) it says that even the accessible flats will only have 0.5 parking spaces per unit. The amount given to the other flats will be "negligible". So unless you are buying an accessible flat you should not be planning on parking a car there.

However there are over 600 cycle spaces being provided in the development so time to get on the bike!

Anyway, that should go to show there is certainly not a national minimum requirement of 0.75 per unit.

ETA: You don't necessarily get the ability to buy a resident's permit for on-street parking either - some developments specifically say that those addresses will not qualify for one and so cannot apply for one. Even if you do, they are expensive and the roads are full. You just don't move there if you desperately want a car. And therefore I don't live in one.

AdrianC

hazyjo wrote: »

There's a development at Highams Park, E4 where they're converting an old cinema into a small cinema and flats. People keep asking on the local boards about parking and the general consensus is that Waltham Forest are still under the impression that people will take to bikes with their 'mini-Holland scheme' (lots of cycle lanes, one way systems, road closures, etc).

Utterly deluded. Going to be around 50 new residents with no allocation (or little) for parking for residents and visitors. The area struggles with parking as it is. It's hell round there!

It does seem to depend on the council. WF are convinced people won't need their cars and are doing everything they can to discourage people to use them.

Thank God I moved lol.

Umm, E4 is London (well, mostly)... The "WF" (as in "London Borough of Waltham Forest", I assume you mean) bit certainly is. So it comes under this...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sadiq-khan-reveals-plans-to-ban-parking-spaces-on-new-london-homes-a3704011.html

50Twuncle

gingercordial wrote: »

Absolutely not true. It will depend on the council. Where I live (north London) developments specifically say they have a much lower ratio of parking spaces than that in order to push people to get rid of/not have cars and use public transport instead.

Just having a look at a current development on the council's planning portal (this one is in Tottenham) it says:

"Policy DM32 of the DPD; as outlined within Chapter 2 sets out that LBH [London Borough of Haringey] will support proposals for new development with limited or no car parking where there are alternative and accessible means of transport available. Equally, the London Plan (2016) promotes development in areas of good public transport accessibility should aim for significantly less than 1 space per unit." (Emphasis mine)

And:

"Tottenham Hale Public Transport interchange offers numerous National Rail, London Underground and London Bus services. Therefore, it is reasonable to suggest that a reduced car parking provision is both acceptable in terms of local policy and unlikely to affect mobility of future residents."

And:

"The Site therefore seeks to provide a scheme with reduced parking provision on site comprised by accessible parking provision allocated to the accessible/adaptable dwellings with a notional allowance of standard parking spaces for private sale."

Further into the transport plan document (67 pages!) it says that even the accessible flats will only have 0.5 parking spaces per unit. The amount given to the other flats will be "negligible". So unless you are buying an accessible flat you should not be planning on parking a car there.

However there are over 600 cycle spaces being provided in the development so time to get on the bike!

Anyway, that should go to show there is certainly not a national minimum requirement of 0.75 per unit.

ETA: You don't necessarily get the ability to buy a resident's permit for on-street parking either - some developments specifically say that those addresses will not qualify for one and so cannot apply for one. Even if you do, they are expensive and the roads are full. You just don't move there if you desperately want a car. And therefore I don't live in one.

Public Transport - what's that ?
Buses disappeared round here - 10+ years ago - with no alternative transport !!