How to solve the NHS funding crisis

antrobus

Comms69 wrote: »

Unions play VERY little role in how the NHS operates. Guess what? most people don't want to be cleaning up blood, p*ss and sh*t for £24,000 a year, oh whilst their kids are asleep at home, waiting for father Christmas to deliver their gifts...

The BMA and the RCN have no role in how the NHS operates? Are you sure?

P.S. Medics get paid a bit more than £24,000 a year, and normally don't get involved with cleaning up blood, p*ss and sh*t. Or nurses for that matter. It's the HCAs that do the cleaning up, more like £16,000 a year,

antrobus

Comms69 wrote: »

...To run an x-ray department you need the capital to set it up, included speciality lining to rooms, distance from other areas and the equipment itself. Then you hire a radiographer (at £30k per year) to do how many x-rays a week? one of the biggest local surgeries has 15,000 patients registered, how many of those do you think will need a routine x ray which can be treated thereafter outside of hospital. 10%? 1-2 a day? I'm being very much overly generous...

But these days it's all digital. One operator. Takes ten minutes, if that. No appointment necessary, one stream of customers.Next time I get one I'll ask how many they do a shift.

Comms69

antrobus wrote: »

The BMA and the RCN have no role in how the NHS operates? Are you sure?

P.S. Medics get paid a bit more than £24,000 a year, and normally don't get involved with cleaning up blood, p*ss and sh*t. Or nurses for that matter. It's the HCAs that do the cleaning up, more like £16,000 a year,

Nurses do their fair share to be frank. And in any case the point stands.

The unions represent the will of the members, the members are staff- work it out.

Comms69

antrobus wrote: »

But these days it's all digital. One operator. Takes ten minutes, if that. No appointment necessary, one stream of customers.Next time I get one I'll ask how many they do a shift.

Indeed. Around 2 million per month across the country, to save you some time.

The person I!!!8217;m quoting was suggesting one in each go surgery...

I!!!8217;m presuming you mean the output is digital btw

antrobus

Comms69 wrote: »

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You want to fix the NHS? look after yourself, eat healthy, exercise, stop smoking, cut down on drinking. That's it.

Don't be silly.

Smoke 40 a day, and drink 4 bottles of Old Rosie. Drop dead at 65, and you won't be a burden on the NHS. Particularly with all that extra tax you've paid.

Look after yourself and you will live until you are 90, burning up NHS budgets left, right and centre.

antrobus

Comms69 wrote: »

Indeed. Around 2 million per month across the country, to save you some time.

The person I'm quoting was suggesting one in each go surgery...

That would be silly. They don't have the room.

Comms69 wrote: »

I'm presuming you mean the output is digital btw

Yup. Isn't all imaging digital these days. Loaded straight on to the patient record. Your consultant will show you the grisly details if you ask.

Red-Squirrel_2

westernpromise wrote: »

What, you mean the NHS is a bit rubbish and run for the convenience of the staff?

Go and shadow a nurse on a medical ward for a day, or a junior doctor on call for a night, and then tell me that the NHS is run to benefit the staff!

Red-Squirrel_2

antrobus wrote: »

The BMA and the RCN have no role in how the NHS operates? Are you sure?

P.S. Medics get paid a bit more than £24,000 a year, and normally don't get involved with cleaning up blood, p*ss and sh*t. Or nurses for that matter. It's the HCAs that do the cleaning up, more like £16,000 a year,

The RCN is about as much as a chocolate teapot when it comes to standing up for their members.

If you think nurses don't do basic care and hygiene, see my advice to westernpromise above, and do the same!

dotchas

antrobus wrote: »

That would be silly. They don't have the room.



Yup. Isn't all imaging digital these days. Loaded straight on to the patient record. Your consultant will show you the grisly details if you ask.

You still require equipment and a radiographer @£30000 per annum for their skill and expertise after 4 years at uni.
So no, its not practical for a GP service to provide xray facilities, also you need a radiologist to report the images.

A much quicker way to save the NHS is to get rid of unnecessary staff at management level, sitting in offices ,never having seen a ward, theatre or imaging department. They are easily identified by their ridiculously long meaningless job titles, which no-one understands.....

POPPYOSCAR

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

The RCN is about as much as a chocolate teapot when it comes to standing up for their members.

If you think nurses don't do basic care and hygiene, see my advice to westernpromise above, and do the same!

I cannot understand some of the comments by some posters.

Having been visiting my brother in hospital for going on 3 months I have seen what nurses have to do.

They also have the pressure of getting it right. I would not want the responsibility.

Glad there are those that do and they should be paid well for the difficult and valued job they do.

This would attract more to the profession and the NHS be less reliant on agency staff.