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Sir Greg Knight's parking bill

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  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    The more you unjustly protest the more I know that I am correct in taking this stand.


    If you say so
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    No Ryan you are wrong.


    Take that from someone whom, according to my Commission, signed personally by her hand, Her Majesty considers to be "trusty and beloved", and with whom she is "well pleased".
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Castle
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    Government support for the bill; (nice of Sajid Javid to refer to them as "fines"):-
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/boost-for-drivers-as-government-backs-clamp-down-on-rogue-parking-firms
  • System
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    This is a complete and utter mess. The government had the opportunity to ban private parking once and for all.

    And what do you think the outcome of that would be? Do you think it would allow you unfettered access to private property to park on it as you please?

    If I were a car park owner and that came into force two things would happen:

    1) On the day it came into force a large fence would go up to deny anyone access.
    2) On the second day it would be sold for redevelopment.

    Congratulations, a hundred or more car parking spaces lost. Best of luck finding somewhere to park when all the other private car parks have decided to do the same.
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  • System
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    then we will have the end of private parking and Capita once and for all.

    And given that the land they're built on tends to be in a prime location they'll be sold to be developed into office buildings or industrial units. The only thing that prevents them from being sold at the moment is the revenue from the parking. Take that away and what incentive has a property owner got for allowing Joe Public to use his property to park their cars on? None at all.
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  • Umkomaas
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    Tarambor wrote: »
    And given that the land they're built on tends to be in a prime location they'll be sold to be developed into office buildings or industrial units. The only thing that prevents them from being sold at the moment is the revenue from the parking. Take that away and what incentive has a property owner got for allowing Joe Public to use his property to park their cars on? None at all.

    In the grand scheme of things, the landowner earns precious little now from his parking facility - it is the private parking companies who rape and pillage motorists who err in regard to their many and convoluted rules and regs. None of the money they snatch goes anywhere near the landowner.

    This is what this Bill is about - controlling vermin, the nearest thing the Govt could now get to introducing a fox hunting Bill :D
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • pappa_golf
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    Tarambor wrote: »
    And given that the land they're built on tends to be in a prime location they'll be sold to be developed into office buildings or industrial units. The only thing that prevents them from being sold at the moment is the revenue from the parking. Take that away and what incentive has a property owner got for allowing Joe Public to use his property to park their cars on? None at all.

    well almost but not quite

    in a lot of cases , say out of town shopping parking is free , and as such the rates are set accordingly , and parking is needed to allow people to shop

    HOWEVER in a lot of cases the parking cos offer free "car park management*" or even pay the shopping centre to work there

    no money is made by the shopping centre , the vast amounts of money are made by private parking contractor in the form of invoices for simple things

    "car park management*" now that is a joke! how can a ANPR camera manage a car park , you could park side on in a mother /child or disabled spot , you could block a shop entry , you could set up a car boot sale , what can a ANPR camera do?

    perhaps as in police /council , ANPR should be banned and car park ATTENDANTS , (not wardens) should be brought back

    hang on , that would reduce the parking Cos income substantially
    Save a Rachael

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  • If I didn’t have an important benefits meeting this Friday then I would travel down to London to make my views known at the Second Reading that is due to take place.

    How exactly do you plan to do that? It's the House of Commons, not Question Time. They don't take input from the public gallery.
    Always remember to abide by Space Corps Directive 39436175880932/B:
    'All nations attending the conference are only allocated one parking space.'

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  • beamerguy
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    There is one thing that is guaranteed ...... until this
    bill becomes law, we will see an increase in the demands
    and no doubt an increase with roboclaims by the dodgy
    solicitors ......... making hay while the sun shines
  • The government had the opportunity to ban private parking once and for all.
    there is no way that Jezza will allow private parking to continue
    Are you suggesting nationalising all parking? You do talk tripe at times. There will always be privately onbed pieces of land on which people will want to park their cars. As such, there will always be companies who manage it, whether it be sensible, barrier controlled pay-per-hour parking, or deliberate entrapment zones that we know and love. Hopefully we'll see fewer of the latter, but to say private parking will be banned is just nonsense.
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