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  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 4,988 Forumite
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    TheEffects wrote: »
    I wanted to inquire is it me or its it completely unfair, that those whom passed driving test before jan 1997, have all these outrageous categories.
    Governments don't like taking rights away. It tends to be unpopular!

    What amazes me is that I have to do annual training for my job. If I don't. my professional body can fine me or strike me off (making me effectively unemployed). But the most dangerous thing I do is my drive to and from work.

    If we really, really wanted to reduce road deaths, we might think about doing annual training for all drivers. Perhaps every 2-3 years? But no Government will do that, and we're all accepting that people will die.

    Crazy, huh!
  • AdrianC
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    Ectophile wrote: »
    Charities around the country have to keep sending their minibus drivers on MIDAS courses every few years, to keep their magic MIDAS certificate up-to-date. Without that, you won't be allowed to drive.
    But, as with CPC, that's not needed for just personal use. MiDAS (Minibus Driver Awareness Scheme) is relevant to community transport organisations, such as charities/dial-a-ride etc.
  • Car_54
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    marlot wrote: »
    If we really, really wanted to reduce road deaths, we might think about doing annual training for all drivers. Perhaps every 2-3 years? But no Government will do that, and we're all accepting that people will die.

    But annual training every 2-3 years is impossible.
  • sevenhills
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    But, as with CPC, that's not needed for just personal use. MiDAS (Minibus Driver Awareness Scheme) is relevant to community transport organisations, such as charities/dial-a-ride etc.

    CPC, in effect, replaces MIDAS; CPC is compulsory for all community transport organisations.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    marlot wrote: »
    Governments don't like taking rights away. It tends to be unpopular!

    What amazes me is that I have to do annual training for my job. If I don't. my professional body can fine me or strike me off (making me effectively unemployed). But the most dangerous thing I do is my drive to and from work.

    If we really, really wanted to reduce road deaths, we might think about doing annual training for all drivers. Perhaps every 2-3 years? But no Government will do that, and we're all accepting that people will die.

    Crazy, huh!


    There literally isn't enough time in the day to do that. 10mil people a year doing a test would cost an absolute fortune to administer.


    Driver training course being given out for minor offences would be a good idea though.
  • AdrianC
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    Comms69 wrote: »
    There literally isn't enough time in the day to do that. 10mil people a year doing a test would cost an absolute fortune to administer.
    Obviously, every year would be massive overkill. Once a decade feels about right, more frequently for new drivers and the elderly.

    It would be self-funding, of course, through test fees. The test practical is currently £62. Once a decade, that is hardly onerous for the privilege of driving. Roll the photocard re-issue in with it, and it's less than a fiver a year more than now.
  • AndyMc.....
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    CPC, in effect, replaces MIDAS; CPC is compulsory for all community transport organisations.

    But neither are/were needed for personal use.
  • sevenhills
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    But neither are/were needed for personal use.

    I think I have seen one in the past month, not a big problem. How many people do you know, that drive a 16 seater for personal use. Maybe the odd 8 seater, its not a problem.
  • Ganga
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    Richard53 wrote: »
    Sorry, but I don't believe this. I took my car test ten years before that (1971) and it was 45 minutes of intensive town driving, with an examiner with a detailed checklist. I can assure you there was plenty of traffic.


    The motorbike test I took the following year was a joke, however. Literally twice round the block, once in each direction, and don't hit the examiner when he steps out for your emergency stop. That gave you a licence for any bike of any capacity.

    I passed mine in 1967,the test was about 3/4s of an hour through a town,had to do hill start,three point turn,reverse into a side road,emergency stop etc as well as competent driving.Bear in mind we had to use hand signals even if the vehical had indicators:rotfl::rotfl:
  • Warwick_Hunt
    Warwick_Hunt Posts: 1,179 Forumite
    sevenhills wrote: »
    I think I have seen one in the past month, not a big problem. How many people do you know, that drive a 16 seater for personal use. Maybe the odd 8 seater, its not a problem.

    Anyone with the correct entitlement on their licence can, so I bet that’s millions of people that don’t need the CPC you keep insisting is a requirement.
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