grandfather Driving rights

sevenhills

n217970 wrote: »

It does seem somewhat backwards that my elderly mother can perfectly legally drive a 7.5 tonne van and yet I cannot. I doubt she could climb into the cab.

Probably not, she would need CPC training.

AdrianC

Only if she was driving it commercially.

sevenhills

AdrianC wrote: »

'course, the irony is that the OP almost certainly can drive a <16 passenger seat minibus on his current licence. What he can't do is drive a >3.5t vehicle, but there's plenty of 12-passenger minibuses that aren't over 3.5t.

https://www.gov.uk/driving-a-minibus

The OP would need 35 hours of periodic training every 5 years to keep your Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) to drive a lorry, bus or coach.

https://www.gov.uk/driver-cpc-training

sevenhills

AdrianC wrote: »

Only if she was driving it commercially.

Not many people have 16 seaters for personal use; other than that - a CPC is needed.

AdrianC

sevenhills wrote: »

Not many people have 16 seaters for personal use; other than that - a CPC is needed.

The question was about 7.5tonners, rather than minibuses.

But, yes, quite a few people do. There's a lot of even "normal-looking" motorhomes that are plated above 3.5t. Then there's horseboxes, or simply renting one to move house or move things about - sometimes, a luton Transit isn't big enough. Same for minibuses - taking a bunch of mates for a weekend away or a football match?

The requirement for CPC comes when the driving is being performed in the course of employment.

Here y'go:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/driver-cpc-exemptions-examples#non-commercial-carriage-of-passengers-or-goods-for-personal-use

Warwick_Hunt

sevenhills wrote: »

Not many people have 16 seaters for personal use; other than that - a CPC is needed.

But you responded about a 7.5 tonne truck.

Warwick_Hunt

sevenhills wrote: »

The OP would need 35 hours of periodic training every 5 years to keep your Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) to drive a lorry, bus or coach.

https://www.gov.uk/driver-cpc-training

What’s your point?


I guess despite typing it you’re not seeing the key word.

You only need to complete one set of training every 5 years if you drive both lorries and buses professionally.

sevenhills

AdrianC wrote: »

But, yes, quite a few people do. There's a lot of even "normal-looking" motorhomes that are plated above 3.5t. Then there's horseboxes, or simply renting one to move house or move things about - sometimes, a luton Transit isn't big enough. Same for minibuses - taking a bunch of mates for a weekend away or a football match?

I don't recall any news item about grandfather rights drivers having accidents. Its just about fairness.
I think the rules are about right, should we take away the entitlement of drivers that have been driving large vehicles for many years?

unforeseen

Warwick_Hunt wrote: »

Front wheel drive were the best thing since sliced bread by the time the montego came out.

Didn't make a blind bit of difference when you were trying to manoeuvre at low speeds, you needed just leave like Popeye.

welfayre

AdrianC wrote: »

Somebody in their 60s is hardly "elderly"...

Someone in their 60s is, based on average life expectancy, between 74.5% and 84.5% of the way through their life. I'd say that's pretty elderly.

To put it another way when my phone battery drops to 20% I get a warning.