becoming homeless, advice please

aneary

Rambosmum wrote: »

I work in this field. I do not know of a single Local Authority (and admittedly I do not know them all) that will provide 24 hour support in someone's own home. I suspect the Social Worker didn't explain things very well to you and may actually be suggesting 24 hour residential care (as in a care home). In which case, you can live in your mums house, pay rent and your mum uses that rent to pay care home fees, any additional charges will be put against the house, so when your mum passes away and the house is sold the debt for the care will be taken from the profits of the sale.

The mother's house is a council house she doesn't own it.

As far as I'm aware you cannot sublet council houses legally.

fairy_lights

Rambosmum wrote: »

In which case, you can live in your mums house, pay rent and your mum uses that rent to pay care home fees, any additional charges will be put against the house, so when your mum passes away and the house is sold the debt for the care will be taken from the profits of the sale.

It's a council house though, and OP is not named on the tenancy so if his mother had to go in to a care home presumably he would need to move out?

Rambosmum

fairy_lights wrote: »

It's a council house though, and OP is not named on the tenancy so if his mother had to go in to a care home presumably he would need to move out?

Depends on the rules of that council - you can pass your council house to a family member in some councils (such as my own and the one I work in). He would take over the tenancy and pay rent to the council.

Also, Social Services cannot remove you from the house, they cannot evict you or your mum. Only the landlord can do that and Social Services have very, very little influence on landlord (including ALMOs and RSAs).

elsien

OP, if your mum lacks capacity to make her own decision and there's no power of attorney in place, then a best interests decision would be made in her behalf. You would not be making the decision, but mum and you should be fully consulted and involved. They should be looking at the least restrictive option first, which is likely to be keeping her at home with support as suggested by RambosMum unless it can be clearly evidenced that it's either not what she wants, or the risks outweigh the benefits. So prior to any meeting have a good think about what would help you and mum carry on for longer, if that's what you both want and if you think it's still do-able.

You also have the option to make a complaint about very unhelpful social worker if you wish.

[Deleted User]

But mum is probably not with it enough to add her son to the tenancy etc. So the OP needs to seek advice.

Oops cross posted lol. But I agree with the above.., there are very good social workers and quite a few that don't know the system or are working on auto pilot unfortunately. I've come across both. Then the OP needs to ask for more help.

I wonder if these people could help? https://www.thegoodcaregroup.com/live-in-care/dementia-care/dementia-charities-uk/ or one of their suggested charities? I know Parkinsons UK helped him and advised me on options when I was trying to get help for my father (different condition however)

Rambosmum

deannatrois wrote: »

But mum is probably not with it enough to add her son to the tenancy etc. So the OP needs to seek advice.

Oops cross posted lol.

Rules of succession are not relient on current tenent giving permission (as they are primarily used when the tenent is dead but can be used in the event of care home).

DaveKBmth

I must say that I suffer the same affliction as my mum and really don't like asking for help I can't tell you how much she has helped me all my life. Bringing my brother and myself up pretty much single handed, I was a nightmare as a teenager but she never gave up on me, she has always put others before herself and it's an absolute horror seeing what this discussing disease is doing to her.

The tendency was succeeded to my mum when my dad died so, this was never an option.

Thanks for the support guys I can't tell you how much all this info has helped along with the fact that strangers are willing to take time to help. Depression for me is the idea that the future is hopeless all paths lead to more pain. Some great ideas, suggestions here makes me feel better about all our futures including the decency of people.

Some rest bite for my mum (if I can encourage her to go) and support as a carer for me (carers more often) so, I can get back to work would really help it's cheap to live here and I could save quickly.

Cakeguts

DaveKBmth wrote: »

I must say that I suffer the same affliction as my mum and really don't like asking for help I can't tell you how much she has helped me all my life. Bringing my brother and myself up pretty much single handed, I was a nightmare as a teenager but she never gave up on me, she has always put others before herself and it's an absolute horror seeing what this discussing disease is doing to her.

The tendency was succeeded to my mum when my dad died so, this was never an option.

Thanks for the support guys I can't tell you how much all this info has helped along with the fact that strangers are willing to take time to help. Depression for me is the idea that the future is hopeless all paths lead to more pain. Some great ideas, suggestions here makes me feel better about all our futures including the decency of people.

Some rest bite for my mum (if I can encourage her to go) and support as a carer for me (carers more often) so, I can get back to work would really help it's cheap to live here and I could save quickly.

Just because your mother brought you up single handed doesn't mean that you have to make your depression worse to look after her. When your mother decided to have children she also took on the responsibility of bringing them up. So that was her job. It all came with the decision to have you.

You do not have the same responsibility to look after her when she is older because you can't manage that. Your own health is not good enough. This situation is not of your making.

Your mother to be honest is being a bit selfish. The best solution for herself and all of you is if she goes into residential care where she will be looked after and most of all kept safe but she doesn't want to do that. That would give you peace of mind knowing that she can't wander off and that they will make sure she eats and doesn't hurt herself. The problem with her being at home is that someone will have to watch her all the time so that she doesn't do something like leave the cooker on or boil the kettle with no water in it etc. In a care home she won't have access to anything that can cause injury.

The only way to find out what she really wants to do is if you move out because at the moment she has got you looking after everything that might be a problem and this is making you ill. It is a problem because if you get very ill you can't look after her at all. While you live with her she can make unrealistic choices which rely on you being there. If you and your family don't live with her and she has to rely on carers it gives her more of a chance to see what life is really like.

Balabalabala_and_Volare

DaveKBmth wrote: »

So, my question is if we become homeless what could the council offer us as emergency housing as it's 3 of us, we have nowhere else to go and no savings to pay for an alternative.

At best, they will probably offer B+B while they assess your application. Unless they accept that you meet the priority need criteria, that accommodation will end shortly after the decision is notified. There is no time limit on that decision, just a guideline of 33 working days. But they could make the decision much quicker, so even that temporary accommodation may not last very long.

DaveKBmth wrote: »

We are on the council list silver band but it looks like it's going to be a 10 year wait.

Looking at recent lets, 10 years would appear to be a huge over-estimate. 2 and 3 bed properties are being allocated to Silver band bidders within a few months, or even weeks, not a few years.
http://www.dorsethomechoice.org/dorset-homechoice/PdfFiles/PublicFreesheet.pdf

DaveKBmth wrote: »

I'm really concerned about my daughter not being housed with us as she is 18 but extremely naive and really needs our support.

Your daughter is considered part of your household, regardless of age or employment. As such, they will rehouse her with you.

Have a chat with the housing team at the council, and be prepared to be a bit flexible regarding your areas of choice. Homeless and fussy is always a dangerous combination.

DaveKBmth

Looking at recent lets, 10 years would appear to be a huge over-estimate. 2 and 3 bed properties are being allocated to Silver band bidders within a few months, or even weeks, not a few years.

I thought it would be 10 years due to what I saw within the feedback, so far all who were allocated have been on the list since 2008.

https /imgur.com/a/B8W7s

Thanks for the link, very interesting.