PCN From Vehicle Control Services

StoppedForSeconds

Hello. Apologies if I'm not following forum etiquette by starting a thread, please do point me in the right direction if the information is here somewhere.

I was collected from John Lennon Airport, Liverpool by another person, driving a car of which I am the registered keeper. I was making my way out to the main road as I was unsure of a pick up point as I'd never used the airport before. However, the driver arrived early and encountered me whilst I was in an area where stopping is prohibited. I put the cases in the boot and myself and my Son got in the car. Going off the times on the photos my car was stationary for about 30 seconds.

So I've received a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) saying I need to pay £100 (£60 if paid within 14 days.) The driver says they didn't notice any signs but to be honest they wouldn't have been looking for any and wouldn't see anything wrong in pulling over to pick me up on a quiet road. It was early Evening so at this time of year it was dark.

What is the next course of action to try to avoid paying this fine? The driver is all for paying the £60 and forgetting about it but I think it's at least worth asking if anyone knows of grounds to get out of it first.

So to summarise -

PCN NTK sent to me as registered keeper.

The driver is a named driver on the insurance policy and was driving the car.

Signs not noticed due to driver being in an unfamiliar place taking more care to try to spot myself and my Son walking in the dark than looking at road signs.

I have not taken any action yet other or responded to the PCN in any way.

Any offers of advice greatly appreciated!

Redx

do not name the driver

edit the last post to remove any hint of who was driving

the KEEPER sends the black text template from the NEWBIES sticky thread (have you read it yet ? its at the top of this forum)

then IGNORE for 6 years unless court papers arrive (unlikely as its not relevant land and bylaws apply)

the KEEPER is not liable

StoppedForSeconds

Brilliant, thanks so much :T

Redx

because bylaws apply , after 6 months they cannot take the owner to magistrates court (or driver if the driver is not divulged)

bylaws are different than civil parking contracts

so as KEEPER, you have no liability, despite what the future letters will say

StoppedForSeconds

Dear {name of IPC member - only IPC members for this version!!!}

Re PCN number:

I am the keeper of the vehicle and am aware of your purported 'parking charge'. The driver will not be identified. I require the following information so that I can make an informed decision:

1. Who is the party that contracted with your company and are they the landowner?
2. Is your charge based on damages for breach of contract? Answer yes or no.
3. Please provide photos of the signs that you say were on site, which you contend formed a contract with the driver.
4. Please provide all photographs taken of this vehicle.
5. Please provide proof that the timing of any camera or timer used was synchronised with all other cameras and/or systems & machines.

Do not send debt collector letters and do not add any costs, which would be a thinly-veiled attempt at 'double recovery'. I will not respond to debt collectors and to involve a third party would be a failure to mitigate your costs as well as deliberate and knowing misuse of my data.

Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause (e.g. if you do not fully comply with the IPC Code of Practice in terms of signage at this site, as seems likely based on my research) please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me. I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle.

I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.

Yours faithfully,

StoppedForSeconds

Is that the template I need to be using, and do I go to the website on the reverse of the form to appeal, which is m y p a r ki n g c h a rg e dot co dot uk

KeithP

Yes...........

StoppedForSeconds

Thanks very much Keith!

StoppedForSeconds

So I've lodged the appeal through the website. As I understand it I'll get a rejection by email and then they'll continue to send me letters through the post for the next 6 years but I need to ignore these unless they are from a court?

I took a screenshot of the appeal being received - will this be sufficient for evidence for me to save?

KeithP

Yes is the answer to both those questions too.

StoppedForSeconds

Thank you very much for your help tonight Keith, much appreciated!