New MOT test May 2018

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almillar wrote: »

I think if you ask Churchill the dog he would tell you a car is literally a write off if the cost of repair exceeds the value.

That is because they're trying to save themselves money. They don't own the car, they are also a business whose role is to make as much money as they can for themselves so it is perfectly understandable that in that case they'll not pay out more than it is worth. They don't care whether what you replace it with is going to have more problems than your current car did because they won't be paying for those repairs will they?

Oh yes. What you're saying is perfectly reasonable of course if the car is otherwise good, but that's not what I said. An insurance company would 'write off' the car.

It pains me to see that a sentient being can't understand why they would in comparison to a private individual.

Ant555

chrisw wrote: »

Many Major changes to the MOT test from 20th May 2018 😬
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Mot on my diesel expires Jun 10th so I'll set a reminder to get it booked in a month in advance - there might be a 'rush' on MOT's in the weeks leading up to May 20th!

almillar

That is because they're trying to save themselves money. They don't own the car, they are also a business whose role is to make as much money as they can for themselves so it is perfectly understandable that in that case they'll not pay out more than it is worth. They don't care whether what you replace it with is going to have more problems than your current car did because they won't be paying for those repairs will they?

You have, once again, simply explained what a write-off is. This was my original point.

It pains me to see that a sentient being can't understand why they would in comparison to a private individual.

Sorry to hear that, but I understand perfectly. If the cost of repair exceeds the value of the car, it's a write off. Still with me? If the owner knows it's good, and wants to repair it, great, but it doesn't change the fact that at one point, a cold hard look at the numbers, would have meant replace, not repair.

oldagetraveller

VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda Diesel's should have no problems with emissions, they've at least been tested on monkeys in the U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqh_C8WOcmk

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cjdavies wrote: »

Are these the ones that seem to blind you from when they drive behind you? If so, it cannot come quick enough, downside is it will only apply to cars 3 years or older.

The same ones that bounce around giving different shades and levels of brightness when they are coming towards you (or behind).

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Ant555 wrote: »

Mot on my diesel expires Jun 10th so I'll set a reminder to get it booked in a month in advance - there might be a 'rush' on MOT's in the weeks leading up to May 20th!

Mine expires on the same date so I'll be making sure I get booked in before 20th May too!

Not like I expect to fail on the new rules, just ensuring I get another year of motoring before any big bills just in case.

motorguy

Tarambor wrote: »

It doesn't matter a toss whether you owned the car from new or not. It is your legal responsibility to ensure that the vehicle you use on the road is maintained and safe and doesn't kill the population of the local town from what it chucks out of the exhaust as it drives down the road. If you service whatever car you have, whether you bought it new or not, the service will highlight issues which you can get done before the MOT. Hell, almost all of that list you'd have to be blind not to see when you used the car.

All very noble and text book response of you there, however that wont stop a lot of innocent people falling foul to events that predate their ownership of the car.

I was referring to DPF related issues specifically, not all the other bits, obviously.

Tarambor wrote: »

As for the DPF being gutted without your knowledge I fail to see how given that when buying the car getting someone to rev it up would show it throwing out smoke which it shouldn't if the DPF filter was working properly so you should have been more vigilant when checking. My car is on 127,000 miles with the original DPF filter. It doesn't put out any smoke when hard accelerating such as when overtaking and I've checked that recently with the wife driving the car and me following.

Nope, a car can have the DPF gutted and not blow out lots of black smoke. Thats not a decisive test. Also, how many people do that? Clearly "experts" like you, however do 99% of the car buying public?

motorguy

Tarambor wrote: »

Why does the cost of a new CAT write a car off? Clearly it or the sensor isn't performing within specification otherwise there'd not be a fault code. Just because it passes a MOT doesn't mean it is within spec. The shockers on my car have done 127k, even though they pass a MOT and they don't allow the tyre to leave the road when it goes over a bump or pothole I doubt they're performing within spec.

Its not the cost of the CAT, its the cost of the DPF or complete emissions control unit which would include the DPF, CAT and electronics.

On my Passat that comes to £2,250 if it needs replaced. Even if you were to buy new from a third party, it could easily cost £1,000.

I am sure how even you can see if you've say, an £800 car with a £1,000 bill then you've got a potential "write off".

motorguy

Tarambor wrote: »

Time served apprentice trained qualified mechanic. I have a slight clue....

Ah - so not in economics then.

motorguy

Tarambor wrote: »

Still doesn't write a car off unless you're one of those stupid people who isn't very good with money and thinks that rather than spending £1000 to repair a £500 car whose faults and history you know you're better off getting another car for £500 where you've no idea what is wrong with it or even worse a much newer car where the depreciation in the first year will dwarf that £1000.

As for your comments about the taxi engines the same test applies in the entire UK and your engine failing during it is what happens when you don't maintain your car properly. Change the oil, belts/chains and tensioners when they should be and you will have no problems during the diesel emissions test so again we're talking about people running poorly maintained sheds.

You seem to have gone down a rabbit hole here over the term write off. I did put it in quotes and i did say "could be".

As i said, clearly an "expert" like you will happily pay £1,000 repair bill on an £800 car, but thats not how a lot of people will view it.

To clarify for you though - my original point was that innocent people who have bought a car that has had its DPF previously gutted could fall foul of this change through no fault of their own.