Becoming a private tutor- all questions here

therivierakid

Petals and kettles are the names for the post-16 qualifications. Petals is used for PTLLS which I hold (Preparing to Teach in the Lifelong Learning Sector). Kettles is really Certificate to Teach in the Lifelong Learning Sector. There's also Dettols which is Diploma to ....


None of which are the same as the PGCE, which still exists. I'm about to start at GTP, which is an alternative to PGCE.

Gazing_On_Sunsets

Yup. You can get a PGCE for teaching in the Post Compulsory Sector and a PGCE for Primary or for Secondary.
I think I posted this elsewhere, but a PGCE for secondary (which I have} currently qualifies you for teaching adults too (which I do} but PGCE for adults won't qualify you for Secondary unless it's in a sixth form college.
Things are changing at least in the Skills for Life Sector, and I'm on the L5 Additional Diploma for teaching Numeracy at the moment.
I came into adult ed from Secondary, and there seems to be a real mish mash of qualifications at the moment, many are legacy quals. Colleagues have City and Guilds, PGCEs, or industry experience making them "Instructors" rather than "tutors".

Annie021063

Gazing_On_Sunsets wrote: »

Yup. You can get a PGCE for teaching in the Post Compulsory Sector and a PGCE for Primary or for Secondary.
I think I posted this elsewhere, but a PGCE for secondary (which I have} currently qualifies you for teaching adults too (which I do} but PGCE for adults won't qualify you for Secondary unless it's in a sixth form college.
Things are changing at least in the Skills for Life Sector, and I'm on the L5 Additional Diploma for teaching Numeracy at the moment.
I came into adult ed from Secondary, and there seems to be a real mish mash of qualifications at the moment, many are legacy quals. Colleagues have City and Guilds, PGCEs, or industry experience making them "Instructors" rather than "tutors".

I'm a qualified teacher (Primary) currently studying for a MA in education. I'm interested in teaching adults (Maths and English)and to learn more about the Skills for life sector, can you tell me what the L5 Additional Dimploma is and how you go about getting into it? How do you find adult ed compared to secondary? Is there still a similar pay scale and opportunity for CPD?
Sorry for all the questions

Gazing_On_Sunsets

It's a relatively new requirement. If you are teaching Literacy, Numeracy or ESOL the govt is now asking we have a Level 5 Subject Specialism. We're supposed to get it within 5 years, I think. You do it part time over a year and in all cases I've come across, the employer pays. I think it's all part of the drive to "upskill" and professional the Further Ed workforce which traditionally has drawn its teachers from industry and the trades, people who have great subject knowledge but haven't done a lot of teaching.

Because my background is Art and English, I am currently on the 12 week "Preparation for the Level 5 Additional Diploma in Teaching Numeracy in the Life Long Learning Sector", a course title I will NEVER fit on an application form. There are only 5 of us on this course. It's for non maths people to bring us up to Foundation Degree level, allegedly; it's been very intense and not all relevant. After this, I'll be on the 1 year Additional Diploma, which is more focussed on HOW to teach number and so on, which I am looking forward to.

Payscales Secondary to Adult Ed. Aargh. If I had stayed in Secondary as a fulltime teacher with a TLR and SEN point, I'd be earning about 8 to 1OK more than I currently am. I am an hourly paid tutor (aka sessional lecturer] and work 9.25 hours a week. At least, I'm paid £21.12 for those hours. That hourly rate included rolled up holiday pay, and for every hour of teaching you're expected to do 2O minutes planning, prep and marking. I think it brings your actual hourly rate down to about £14. If you teach in regular colleges like this, remember also the very long holidays: about 3 months a year in total. No income! As I am in a prison we don't close for holidays, so I can earn all year round. CPD is patchy. I work for a college which is very large and is currently trying to make cuts and redundancies, (not on front line staff. The world will ALWAYS need maths teachers!] and the budget isn't there for training.

I think there is a similar pay scale if you manage to get a job as a full time member of staff. It is possible but there is still a general expectation that you start as an hourly paid, and then apply when full time posts come up.

https://www.lluk.org will give you more info.

Annie021063

Gazing_On_Sunsets wrote: »

It's a relatively new requirement. If you are teaching Literacy, Numeracy or ESOL the govt is now asking we have a Level 5 Subject Specialism. We're supposed to get it within 5 years, I think. You do it part time over a year and in all cases I've come across, the employer pays. I think it's all part of the drive to "upskill" and professional the Further Ed workforce which traditionally has drawn its teachers from industry and the trades, people who have great subject knowledge but haven't done a lot of teaching.

Because my background is Art and English, I am currently on the 12 week "Preparation for the Level 5 Additional Diploma in Teaching Numeracy in the Life Long Learning Sector", a course title I will NEVER fit on an application form. There are only 5 of us on this course. It's for non maths people to bring us up to Foundation Degree level, allegedly; it's been very intense and not all relevant. After this, I'll be on the 1 year Additional Diploma, which is more focussed on HOW to teach number and so on, which I am looking forward to.

Payscales Secondary to Adult Ed. Aargh. If I had stayed in Secondary as a fulltime teacher with a TLR and SEN point, I'd be earning about 8 to 1OK more than I currently am. I am an hourly paid tutor (aka sessional lecturer] and work 9.25 hours a week. At least, I'm paid £21.12 for those hours. That hourly rate included rolled up holiday pay, and for every hour of teaching you're expected to do 2O minutes planning, prep and marking. I think it brings your actual hourly rate down to about £14. If you teach in regular colleges like this, remember also the very long holidays: about 3 months a year in total. No income! As I am in a prison we don't close for holidays, so I can earn all year round. CPD is patchy. I work for a college which is very large and is currently trying to make cuts and redundancies, (not on front line staff. The world will ALWAYS need maths teachers!] and the budget isn't there for training.

I think there is a similar pay scale if you manage to get a job as a full time member of staff. It is possible but there is still a general expectation that you start as an hourly paid, and then apply when full time posts come up.

www.lluk.org will give you more info.

Thanks for this very detailed post, always good to look at different avenues. I will check out the website. Thanks again.

amy_lou_4

gozaimasu wrote: »

I hope you don't mind me asking amy_lou, but what is your job in France? I've always wanted to go and work over there, but the application process seems incredibly difficult even if you speak fluent French.

Hi, I haven't been on here for ages due to work! I am working for a British company with all its management etc there, it is a holiday centre for school groups to come over from the UK. We only have one actual French staff member, the rest are all British so that is how come I ended up finding a job over here without any problems. We are paid in pounds into British bank accounts and pay UK tax, not French, with British CRB checks!

And to actually be on topic, I am writing in French to my students to help them from afar, and have offered to keep marking essays for them if they can wait 10 days for the post!

mawby6264

I have been tutoring for the last few years. My highest qualification is a HND. I am considering tutoring chilren from the ages of 5 to 16in small groups up to 6 children at a time. I have a current CRB and wondered whether I needed insurance and I charge £20 per hour what should I charge for the group tuition.

property.advert

barnaby-bear wrote: »

You can't request a CRB check as an individual. It's a pain that you can't but if you know clever ways around it... let us know....

Setting up your own company costs less than £20. Banking is free for 2 years if you want it. Preparing your accounts takes about an hour a year and maybe a few minutes here and there throughout the month. Filing accounts costs less than £20.

A company can request a CRB for an individual.

becca0417

Is anyone else finding it REALLY busy at the moment? I had 5 new requests last week alone!

mawby6264

What should I charge each child for an hours tuition in a small group.