Travelling On

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3rd injection done and dusted today, just 4 more to go by the end of next week:j. Not feeling much more energised as yet but definitely more optimistic that I will do eventually. The only way is up:j


Just a quick post to pick your brains, KC, as I know you do a tremendous amount of genealogy research. If anyone will know the answer to my predicament it will be you, KC:A. I'm having a nightmare time trying to order a Death Certificate from GRO as the form won't submit without a definite date of registration of the event:mad:. I know it was registered in the 2nd Quarter of 1984 but can't find the exact date anywhere despite wearing out my laptop, my fingers and my patience in the search:(. I just don't know how to proceed. Any advice if you have a minute please? Thanks xxx

themadvix

That's weird CBC - surely half the point is that you want the death cert for the actual date?! (I've always only had the quarter and year - that's the point of the registers....). Could it be the website playing up? If not, my suggestion would be the probate calendars, if you have access (and the person in question had a will) - they always have the actual DOD on them.

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That's weird CBC - surely half the point is that you want the death cert for the actual date?! (I've always only had the quarter and year - that's the point of the registers....). Could it be the website playing up? If not, my suggestion would be the probate calendars, if you have access (and the person in question had a will) - they always have the actual DOD on them.

Thanks very much:T. Not sure about the will situation. Will investigate if I don't receive any helpful advice as a result of my email to GRO yesterday for which I received the instant, standard automated reply . Not holding my breath over how fast they deal with queries;)

Karmacat

Morning! CBC, what madvix said, basically. I'd have recommended freebmd, but I don't think they give exact dates either. Wills have always confused me about where they're stored, but now they're online in an easily found place, its bliss, so I too would definitely recommend that.

The only other thing I can suggest is to put an exact date in, and make sure you press the plus/minus button to ask for a year either side sort of using their methods to wiggle around their methods

I was mucking about on ancestry over the weekend, as they had free access - the second bit of research on my mum's family had a lot of supporting information missing. It was because it was too easy, really - there was a diary, held by a great aunt of mine, that had lots of births, marriages and deaths in there, from the 1870s right back to the 1780s, it was remarkable. And when I was 15, there weren't even photocopy shops, let alone a way to take a picture of a page of writing :rotfl: so I copied it out by hand. Which was such a big effort, I never revisited it

Some of the things you find (on Ancestry again) are remarkable. A lady born in 1848, who never married. She looked after her father, she stayed with her brother, she worked as a confectioner while living on her own, she worked as a servant, and finally an unmarried niece moved in to her little house to look after her. She died aged 95, in her own home with her niece there. Nothing spectacular, but remarkable what women alone could manage, even then

ETA CBC I have to order a certificate myself for various family shenanigans, though I do know the exact date, so I'll let you know if I see anything during the process that would help. Sorry I can't be of more use, but madvix has covered it, I think.

Karmacat

CBC, after I ordered the marriage certificate I needed, I went back to look for a death I knew of, since you're searching for a death. I looked for my great grandmother, who died in 1957, whose death certificate I already have - and I couldn't find her! I'd get in touch with them, there's something glitchy going on, maybe just for death certificates sorry!

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CBC, after I ordered the marriage certificate I needed, I went back to look for a death I knew of, since you're searching for a death. I looked for my great grandmother, who died in 1957, whose death certificate I already have - and I couldn't find her! I'd get in touch with them, there's something glitchy going on, maybe just for death certificates sorry!

Thanks for that, KC, and for going to the trouble to do an unnecessary (to you currently) search to help me:A. I know in the past I've ordered various birth and marriage certificates but never a death one before. I never had problems with the ones I did order but it could be as you say and something glitchy is going on with the death certs. I did email them yesterday but apart from the instant standard response that they will get back to me I've heard nothing:(.



Do you happen to know where/how I can find a Coroner's Inquest report please? I know from an old newspaper report when and where the inquest was held and sketchy details of its findings. It hinted at lots of other fascinating details, including a poem written and left by one of the deceased people in an attempt to explain his actions. As far as I can tell they are not available online or, at least, relatively recent ones (1984) anyway.


I'm also drawing blanks in trying to access newspapers of that era, a lot wasn't digitised for that period. I do recall reading a lot about this case in the Daily Mail at the time but their online archive doesn't cover the period in question:(. I've been in touch with the local archive department in the town where it all happened and am happy to take a day trip there if it's possible to access their systems. I know when I was at school we used to go to the local reference library and access the huge bound annual books of the local newspaper. I wonder if they still do that? Maybe they do but on microfiche.


This whole thing is driving me crazy. Doesn't take much does it?:o. It's for research for my proposed novel which I mentioned on here a while ago. Thinking about it has been a fixture of my life for about 25 years but I suddenly feel an urge to crack on with it now:j. I've encountered brick walls before when researching my own family's tree but this latest project is just one wall after another:mad:


I hope your book is making more progress than mine:beer:

Karmacat

No problem, CBC, if I *can* help, I will And its your book! Wow! Okay, here are some linkies:


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/coroners-inquests/
National Archives at Kew - **the** centre.
https://www.bl.uk/collection-guides/newspapers
The British Library (right by Euston/St Pancras/Kings Cross) - mentioned on the link above, but I thought I'd put it in on its own.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-to-coroner-services-and-coroner-investigations-a-short-guide
For what its worth - I don't think it'll do much good.


My own book - I've written 95% of the travel one, the post-apocalyptic one is just a jumble in my head. Between holidays/ petsitting/ DIY on my mum's house/ garden work, nothing is getting done! I'm rabbit- sitting for a few days next week, maybe I can use that to push on with the travel thing. Good luck with yours!

Karmacat

Okay, today, dishwasher, washing machine (a bit of line drying, but baaaad weather), I found my debit card, I did the SB thingies, ordered a marriage certificate for my sister that she needed, got my supermarket delivery indoors and mostly stashed away, checked with my ex-partner about the games afternoon tomorrow (he's chauffeuring me door to door, which is fantastic), still negotiating a family trip to West London this weekend.

At a minimum today, I have to give my utilities provider my latest meter readings, and buy my TV license. A bit of cleaning, and/or a bit of gardening, wouldn't go amiss either.


ETA I have to do what I always said I'd do, input my meter readings weekly - the "history" tab is useless, because I input figures once a quarter, if that, can't tell anything at all. Must do better. It takes about two minutes!

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No problem, CBC, if I *can* help, I will And its your book! Wow! Okay, here are some linkies:


http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/coroners-inquests/
National Archives at Kew - **the** centre.
https://www.bl.uk/collection-guides/newspapers
The British Library (right by Euston/St Pancras/Kings Cross) - mentioned on the link above, but I thought I'd put it in on its own.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guide-to-coroner-services-and-coroner-investigations-a-short-guide
For what its worth - I don't think it'll do much good.


My own book - I've written 95% of the travel one, the post-apocalyptic one is just a jumble in my head. Between holidays/ petsitting/ DIY on my mum's house/ garden work, nothing is getting done! I'm rabbit- sitting for a few days next week, maybe I can use that to push on with the travel thing. Good luck with yours!

Thanks so much, KC:T:A. I'll follow up the links this evening but I suspect I've already tried the coroner ones you mentioned. I've been all over the place following so many links from links that I can't even remember exactly where I've looked:o

The newspaper archives one might be more productive:j. Thanks again.


It was your post-apocalyptic one I was thinking of really. I know exactly what you mean about the jumble in your head. Mine is exactly the same. I've always been one to over-research everything ever since schooldays and the result is usually a mass of notes and largely useless material that just clutters things up. I can't see the wood for the trees sometimes:o. I always have to find out just a little bit more in the hope that I'll have a Eureka moment that makes everything crystal clear:rotfl:. Sadly, it never happens;)


The rabbit-sitting sounds fun. Well, different anyway:)

themadvix

Thanks for the links Karma - I've never looked for a coroners report, but I might do now - there are a few dead rellies that it might be applicable for!

The books all sound brilliant - I am deficient in that sort of creativity, but love to read. Can't wait for the travelling book - it sounds like you've had a really interesting life so far Karma, so it'll be fascinating to read! CBC get the jumble down on paper - it's amazing what a good editor can do