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Mooloo’s Managing it in 2018

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  • Savvy_sewing
    Savvy_sewing Posts: 11,580 Forumite
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    thorsoak wrote: »
    I do hope that your house guests are keeping your home neat and tidy, Mooloo ...and maybe cutting the grass in the garden too! xx

    Yes they are not too bad.
    When I die I will know that I have lived, loved, mattered and made a difference, even if in a small way.
  • Savvy_sewing
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    They need to keep a record of the communications etc that's why they are not blocking the number at the moment.
    When I die I will know that I have lived, loved, mattered and made a difference, even if in a small way.
  • marliepanda
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    Mooloo wrote: »
    These are different children.
    My twin2 had her children adopted 6 years ago.

    I understand that other children in the family have been adopted, however in June the children were moved to a foster family, and you have in between then and now discussed options including having you as a guardian, so clearly there are no imminent plans for the children to be returned to the family home or their parents, and alternative housing is being sought.

    I'm speaking purely on a housing front. Nothing to do with the social care of these children. I don't know the full story as to why these children are still with foster 3 months down the line and what is being done to fix this, if anything.
  • marliepanda
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    Mooloo wrote: »
    They need to keep a record of the communications etc that's why they are not blocking the number at the moment.

    They should not have to respond to them to keep a record of communication.
  • Savvy_sewing
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    I understand that other children in the family have been adopted, however in June the children were moved to a foster family, and you have in between then and now discussed options including having you as a guardian, so clearly there are no imminent plans for the children to be returned to the family home or their parents, and alternative housing is being sought.

    I'm speaking purely on a housing front. Nothing to do with the social care of these children. I don't know the full story as to why these children are still with foster 3 months down the line and what is being done to fix this, if anything.


    The social always look at worst case scenario options and should have been doing all these checks months ago. They didn't have a LAC review until last week and there should be one around about every 6 weeks. Nothing has been filed for court cases and to remove them permanently needs a court case.tb fair DS and GF are doing all they can, have contact 3 days a week and for up to 4 hours at a time. If there was no hope of them being returned then they would not be giving then as much access. As they are no longer on drugs, are both working and seeking better work, then they are doing all they can.
    If they are moved away from the trouble, now they have cleaned up their opportunities improve. Everyone deserves help when they are trying.
    Even if I don't really like the gf I am supporting the chance for them to turn life around. It's not as if housing won't get back a house in return is it?
    If they put them in a two bedroom house/flat then it would be no different to what they are in now. If they put them in a three then they can down size them if they no longer need it. It's no longer like the rights of a council house. It's an Association and they have different rules. Here they will assist you in to smaller accommodation and free up the larger homes. They don't consider a house for life anymore.
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  • bellabella wrote: »
    if thats the case why have you not moved somewhere smaller after all you got a 3 bed house as DS lived with you? and now there are just two of you
    DS and GF need to push themselves they need to find 2nd jobs and push there earnings up there is plenty of little jobs around leafleting ,cleaning and so on it seems its excuse after excuse as to why they cant stand on their own two feet and be decent hard working members of society
    I dont apologise as there are many people working hard many hours a day to make ends meet and this situation seems to yet again rely on everyone else providing everything for them as their right

    Who are you to be saying who should and shouldn't be in whatever housing?

    Whether Mooloos son and gf deserve whatever, they are trying to get their !!!! together, they deserve credit for that. Good luck to them.

    This country treats it's vulnerable disgracefully nowadays and I'm ashamed that we have food banks, and that if anyone needs help they have to go to a charity because it's a certainty that this government will give no help.

    "How a society treats its most vulnerable is always the measure of its humanity."

    Mooloo does what her heart tells her to do with her kids, she knows herself when they need her, or are taking the pee. This is one of those times they need her support in trying to act responsibly.

    Please don't stop writing Mooloo, you have a lot of support here even if some of us might do some things differently
  • Savvy_Sue
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    However the children won’t be counted. They are not ‘planning’ on having them back they are having to prove they can care for them so SS allow them to have them back. The children were almost put up for adoption not long back, which is a huge step for SS, so they are not going to be allocated a home to house their children which currently SS don’t think they’re going to get back. Otherwise people would be stuck in properties too big for their needs, where the housing benefit won’t cover the rent because it’s over and above their needs, and to a family already struggling with money that would not be helpful.
    Although the details are wrong, I can confirm the principles: in this area if you are pregnant and homeless you won't have anything more than a hostel place (if you're lucky) allocated until you a) have had the baby and b) have confirmation that baby will be going home with you. Which, given that you have nowhere suitable to take baby home to, makes for interesting times.
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  • thorsoak
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    Each and every one of us can have a family that makes poor choices from time to time. Most of us keep them quiet - Mooloo has chosen - very bravely - to use this forum - as a way of venting/diarising her family's onward and hopefully upward progress. So where is the mollycoddling?
  • Chrystal
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    bellabella wrote: »
    And WHO are you to tell me what to think yes I am all for those who are physically or mentally challenged to have every help afforded to them but I am not into mollycoddling a family who make continuous poor choices sorry if you want something you should work for it not expect it surely that is not a bad thought or should we all make and continue to make poor choices and have expectations of free housing free money and so on and our children paid for ?
    It says at the very top of the DFW Board:

    Pls remember Debt-Free Wannabe's for support and help not judgement

    If you know Mooloos story you will know that her twin girls ARE mentally challenged, and lots of people on the DFW threads ARE on benefits of one kind or another, and in receipt of housing benefit, child credit etc.
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  • NeilCr
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    edited 1 September 2018 at 6:34AM
    The housing is going to depend on area. We are, desperately, short down here of social housing.

    My partner's son and his wife are overcrowded. Three kids and another on the way. There are medical issues too which give them some priority. But 3/4 bedroom houses are like gold dust - they had a visit recently from their Housing Officer and she said they come up maybe once a year. And there is a lot of competition for them

    So it sometimes can be easy to say move someone to a bigger house - the practicalities of that may be very different. Not saying that is how it is in Mooloo's area - but I know it is common round here, anyway.

    And, yes, I do know about possibly poor choices. That is not what I am talking about. I am pointing out the dearth of social housing and the problems around availability - especially bigger properties.
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