Driving car from driveway into zebra crossing legal?

Tilt

Andy_L wrote: »

Parking on the crossing is illegal, just stopping isn't

I'm assuming you mean for the purposes of allowing pedestrians to cross? Apart from that and in the case of genuine emergency, stopping within the area of the zig zag markings of a pedestrian crossing is a strict liability offence.

IamNotAllowedToUseMyName

Muskey wrote: »

The only way of you getting proper information is to contact your local council and not to rely on the advice being offered on this thread.

Agree. Remember that council officers are supposed to be helpful and the advice they offer can be relied on - they have a duty to be reasonable. I've had good experiences with council officers (and some bad ones too!) and generally your starting point is that if you treat them like reasonable human beings then often they respond accordingly!

I would expect in the first instance that they'll at least explain the law they are depending on to tell you why they believe it should not be done, and then you have something to work with if you want to challenge it.

Car_54

Tilt wrote: »

I'm assuming you mean for the purposes of allowing pedestrians to cross? Apart from that and in the case of genuine emergency, stopping within the area of the zig zag markings of a pedestrian crossing is a strict liability offence.

No it isn't. It is only an offence on the approach side of the crossing.

Warwick_Hunt

[quote=[Deleted User];73579535]No it isn't. It is only an offence on the approach side of the crossing.[/QUOTE]

No, that's overtaking. It's an offence to stop anywhere within the zig-zag area.

Tilt

[quote=[Deleted User];73579535]No it isn't. It is only an offence on the approach side of the crossing.[/QUOTE]


I think you need to bush up on this;

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/pedestrian-crossings.html

Warwick_Hunt

Tilt wrote: »

I think you need to bush up on this;

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/pedestrian-crossings.html

And here's the relevant law.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/18/made

Car_54

Warwick_Hunt wrote: »

And here's the relevant law.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/18/made

You're both right, of course.

Robisere

I can find nothing in the Highway Code and nothing in any Highway laws, applicable to this. Looking at your picture, I think you are unfortunate in that a crossing has been placed opposite where your proposed drive is intended to be. I strongly suggest that you approach your local Council Highways department in the first instance, before carrying out any work.

This situation is complicated by what appears to be a lamp post in front of the LH portion of your wall, thus obstructing your driven path further. I can only suggest a limited shortening of this LH side of the wall, making entrance and exit at an angle to your left upon entrance. I do not believe that you would be allowed to drive across/ along the zebra crossing, or enter any part of the crossing layout. I have found no legal evidence for this, which is why I suggest speaking to your local Council Highways Department.

I repeat: you are singularly unfortunate to have this problem. I hope there is a solution.

Mojisola

The current situation wouldn't get permission in Hertfordshire - what you're planning will certainly be refused.
https://www.hertfordshire.gov.uk/services/Highways-roads-and-pavements/Changes-to-your-road/Dropped-kerbs/Dropped-kerbs.aspx
"Your dropped kerb mustn't affect the operation of traffic lights and pedestrian crossings. It must not be within the confines of zig zag lines."

If you take down the wall and just start using your extended drive, the council will probably install more bollards to stop you.

Warwick_Hunt

Robisere wrote: »

I can find nothing in the Highway Code and nothing in any Highway laws, applicable to this. Looking at your picture, I think you are unfortunate in that a crossing has been placed opposite where your proposed drive is intended to be. I strongly suggest that you approach your local Council Highways department in the first instance, before carrying out any work.

This situation is complicated by what appears to be a lamp post in front of the LH portion of your wall, thus obstructing your driven path further. I can only suggest a limited shortening of this LH side of the wall, making entrance and exit at an angle to your left upon entrance. I do not believe that you would be allowed to drive across/ along the zebra crossing, or enter any part of the crossing layout. I have found no legal evidence for this, which is why I suggest speaking to your local Council Highways Department.

I repeat: you are singularly unfortunate to have this problem. I hope there is a solution.

Given it's a zebra crossing my guess is it's the beacon and not a lamp post.