Driving car from driveway into zebra crossing legal?

Andy_L

Shimrod wrote: »

I wouldn't think reversing in is an option. They would have to stop on the pedestrian crossing, and reverse once any passing traffic has cleared - not very legal.

Parking on the crossing is illegal, just stopping isn't

Andy_L

noah1234 wrote: »

Thank you all for your answers.

I just would like know from traffic law point of view. Assuming there is no fence at all.

The situation is shown below in the photo.

Could you come out to the right of the crossing or is that just a narrow footpath?

unforeseen

Andy_L wrote: »

Parking on the crossing is illegal, just stopping isn't

Stopping is an offence. S25 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984

An explanation can be found at http://www.roadlawbarristers.co.uk/2016/02/pedestrian-crossings-what-are-the-rules/

Shimrod

Andy_L wrote: »

Parking on the crossing is illegal, just stopping isn't

I've taken my information from a secondary source ( http://www.roadlawbarristers.co.uk/2016/02/pedestrian-crossings-what-are-the-rules/ ) and maybe I have misinterpreted it. I think regardless of legality, stopping near or on the pedestrian crossing would cause confusion for other road users and would be a safety issue.

vikingaero

noah1234 wrote: »

Thank you all for your answers.

I just would like know from traffic law point of view. Assuming there is no fence at all.

The situation is shown below in the photo.

This reminds me of a zebra crossing a few miles from me which I find strange. There is one driveway that would mirror that on this:

https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!4v1513507178596!6m8!1m7!1s3l1msnr7Nut8YCI_Fk4UVQ!2m2!1d51.25306324789187!2d0.5454929217040938!3f290.26756988519554!4f-15.764594354730121!5f0.7820865974627469&quot; width="600" height="450" frameborder="0" style="border:0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Will sort link out later as I am trying to cook at the same time!: Streetview: 46 Northumberland Road, Maidstone, Kent

Warwick_Hunt

Shimrod wrote: »

I wouldn't think reversing in is an option. They would have to stop on the pedestrian crossing, and reverse once any passing traffic has cleared - not very legal.

Exactly, offences committed by both drivers.

Warwick_Hunt

Andy_L wrote: »

Parking on the crossing is illegal, just stopping isn't

The law doesn't mention parking, just stopping.

noah1234

Thank you all for your replies. I really appreciate it.

Nearly the kerb of all of the road is dropped. All houses have garages and fully open driveways. Just this house has a narrow drive. I believe the long term previous resident didn't drive.
I struggle when reversing out because the road is busy and because pedestrian crossing. I thought if I open it, I might be able to make a U-turn inside and leave facing forward so I can view the road and make sure no pedestrians anywhere near.
I asked someone previously who knows about council permissions and he told me that I will be able to remove the fence and pave the garden but he is not sure about the legality of driving in and out the side of the zebra crossing in terms of highway laws. Is there a specific law that does not allow it? I imagine there could be people crossing everywhere and we have to be careful always and look out for near by pedestrians when leaving any driveway.

Currently, I only go in or out when there is no pedestrian anywhere near, because I have to go on the zebra crossing anyway when I leave but not from the side.

Warwick_Hunt

noah1234 wrote: »

Thank you all for your replies. I really appreciate it.

Nearly the kerb of all of the road is dropped. All houses have garages and fully open driveways. Just this house has a narrow drive. I believe the long term previous resident didn't drive.
I struggle when reversing out because the road is busy and because pedestrian crossing. I thought if I open it, I might be able to make a U-turn inside and leave facing forward so I can view the road and make sure no pedestrians anywhere near.
I asked someone previously who knows about council permissions and he told me that I will be able to remove the fence and pave the garden but he is not sure about the legality of driving in and out the side of the zebra crossing in terms of highway laws. Is there a specific law that does not allow it? I imagine there could be people crossing everywhere and we have to be careful always and look out for near by pedestrians when leaving any driveway.

Currently, I only go in or out when there is no pedestrian anywhere near, because I have to go on the zebra crossing anyway when I leave but not from the side.

You shouldn't be reversing out.

Muskey

Rules vary in Britain between relevant councils, but in general, dropped kerbs and garden parking are not permitted within zigzag lined areas, so no, you can’t have a dropped kerb for parking at an official zebra crossing.
Additionally, on A B & C roads, you must be able to drive both forwards into and out of a garden parking area as it is illegal to reverse onto these road types. It is also unlawful to stop in a zigzag area, so offences would be comitted by stopping on the zigzags to reverse in or out of the property.
It is usual for only 1 footway crossing to be permitted at a property which can not be wider than 3.6 metres and the minimum depth of hardstanding is 4.8 metres.
The only way of you getting proper information is to contact your local council and not to rely on the advice being offered on this thread.