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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 37,655 Forumite
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    edited 6 December 2017 at 9:17PM
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    azz007 wrote: »
    So why do the PPC stated if after days etc etc...
    You've quoted from the legislation - "[The notice must] warn the keeper" - that's why.

    But if I've not understood your question, then perhaps you need to be more explicit - e.g. maybe expand on "etc etc..."
  • claxtome
    claxtome Posts: 628 Forumite
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    edited 6 December 2017 at 10:41PM
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    To breakdown the paragraph of mine from post #4 you questioned as not sure which part you are not sure about ->
    A PPC is allowed to issue a postal PCN. It is also the NTK.
    The postal PCN is also your Notice to Keeper(NTK).
    They pay to get the Registered keeper details from DVLA.
    It is frustrating to be done in this way as potentially you could throw a crucial piece of evidence, the ticket, prior to receiving the PCN (NTK).
    As you didn't receive a PCN attached to the windscreen and don't receive your PCN through the post after a few days potentially you would have thrown the ticket you had paid for.
    POFA Schedule 4 2012 rules still apply but are slightly different in this scenario in terms of timings.
    Protection of Freedom Act (POFA) 2012 Schedule 4, as has been explained already but just to reiterate it, outlines the parking rules a PPC should follow to be able to chase the Keeper of the vehicle for an alleged parking offence.
  • azz007
    azz007 Posts: 216 Forumite
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    edited 7 December 2017 at 10:02AM
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    KeithP wrote: »
    You've quoted from the legislation - "[The notice must] warn the keeper" - that's why.

    But if I've not understood your question, then perhaps you need to be more explicit - e.g. maybe expand on "etc etc..."

    Yes the quote from legislation states after 28 days , keeper liabilty could apply.

    But on the letter i got they said after 29 days ....
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    It states after teh end of the period of 28 days. WHich would be 29 days
    As long as they have said 29 days from date given, theyre right. Or 28 days from the day after, theyre right. Its the same period. As long as the same overall period is given I would be surprised if any judge would state thee is an issue there.
  • azz007
    azz007 Posts: 216 Forumite
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    edited 7 December 2017 at 10:12AM
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    got a picture of the sign,
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i72y9pjn7i6wvni/AACOHcTM4O6zHeU0KITH-m0oa?dl=0

    there is another exat the same, but says 'maximium parking time 30minutes'. couldnt get a pic of that one

    they just have a few of these scattered about.. small sqaured signs
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    How long after event was the NTK dated? Important.
  • azz007
    azz007 Posts: 216 Forumite
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    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    How long after event was the NTK dated? Important.

    it was well within 14 days..

    date of contravention 29/11
    issue date 04/12.
    recieved 6th/12

    what really bugs me is that they shoudlnt even be issuing tickets on this part of the land., they operate on the other side car park for Mecca Bingo which has ANPR camera.

    they have no business on this side ... soo annoying.,
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    azz007 wrote: »
    it was well within 14 days..

    date of contravention 29/11
    issue date 04/12.
    recieved 6th/12

    what really bugs me is that they shoudlnt even be issuing tickets on this part of the land., they operate on the other side car park for Mecca Bingo which has ANPR camera.

    they have no business on this side
    ... soo annoying.,

    Who owns the land and how do you know that?
  • azz007
    azz007 Posts: 216 Forumite
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    edited 7 December 2017 at 5:27PM
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    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    Who owns the land and how do you know that?

    well theres a mecca bingo centre(monitored by MINSTER)
    NHS walking centre (their own little car park) is monitored by UKPC.
    there is also a Hairdressers no parking restrictions from them.
    so can guratnee Minster dont own the land.

    if you look on the link above, ^^
    its just open land where the driver was parked with the vehicle circle in red. thats not my car btw as i took that this morning... and looking around. a dozen of cars are still parking hee
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 41,357 Forumite
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    if you look on the link above, ^^
    What/whose are those 2 yellow signs on the wall? MB tend to have yellow signage.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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