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O/S Daily Tuesday 28th November 2017

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  • monnagran
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    Cranky, that is not treatment, that is abuse and they are not prolonging your father's life, they are prolonging his suffering.
    I had a similar situation with my own father and no one was listening to my brother and me.
    Afterwards I went berserk and one person lost her job over my complaint.

    All power to your elbow my dear.
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  • Cranky that is disgusting to give the poor man pain so unnecessarily, I too would advocate talking to PALS at the hospital if at all possible..Our own dear Frank is deteriorating sadly and my DD thinks it won't be very long now bless him,but at least he is in no pain at all and the hospice nurses are so kind to him and the family.

    Weather is very cold but dry at least and I am about to start making some cookies for my DGS. Hope you all have a good day and to those who are feeling down or unwell have a <<hug>>

    Quiz night tonight at the pub so no cooking for me tonight

    Have a good day chums and keep warm and dry if possible

    Cheers JackieO xxx
  • System
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    In other news, some plonker doctor in London is trying to save the life of my Dad by amputating his leg. We were asked for permission then told he was going to do it anyway to save Dad's life. The thing here is we're not so sure what exactly he's trying to save. Dad has advanced vascular dementia from the last time some pillock ignored his DNR and spent longer than they should have trying to resuscitate him. Whilst we appreciate the sentiment and the effort made they left a man in his seventies with absolutely no quality of life and/or dignity. Now they're going to top it with a few weeks of agonising pain. It's a good job I'm nowhere near his hospital - I'd be banned. If you could do one thing for me today, please spare a thought for my Dad and hope that he's either not well enough for the op or he doesn't make it out the other end. Not your usual thing I know but for a man whose hobby used to be walking the coastline of Britain this is awful. Incidentally, all three of us (me, my sister and dad's girlfriend) are in agreement that this operation should not take place. Objection over ruled apparently.

    Cranky I really dont know what to say. I am hoping sense will prevail.

    Keep us informed.
    Becky came home for the night on Friday and it went a bit better than last time. She mostly stayed in her room though so we didn't actually see much of her. I don't know if she will be coming home this week for any leave. I guess I will find out today. I miss her so much it is actually a painful feeling. She is in my thoughts all day and I dream about her at night.
    Dumpling Its so difficult being a Mum isnt it? I had an awful thought concerning my daughter in SA yesterday. I read an article in the news about the slaughtering of white farmers in South Africa.... Whilst i am not worrying about her being killed i think she is pretty well protected but i wondered if she died what she would want done with her body. Would she want to be buried there or come home. I think she would rather be buried where her children are but i really ought to ask....
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  • Nelski
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    edited 28 November 2017 at 10:48AM
    Morning all:wave:

    cranky thats awful and I would agree with others about taking this higher you are perfectly entitled to ask for a second opinion before anything is carried out. It sounds bad to say but I hope your dad does not survive to the op.

    lainey hope your lulu visit goes well. Maybe a very gentle hack somewhere she wont be spooked you have to get back in the saddle as they say :)

    HollyH sounds like you tried to do too much yesterday glad you saw the doc though so try to take it easy eh :)

    Gers that looks like a nasty accident take care of yourself


    Phew lots of people having troubles at the moment. Theres a load of hugs here though so please help yourself :)

    Well its Groundhog day again here.....banana gazing time in Morrisons :D Hoping it will be a bit less stressful than last week she was in such a niggly mood hoping for better than that today.

    Food last night was a brekky :) eggs sausage bacon toast and beans. Today will be lunch out so doubt I will not want much tonight

    Really happy for Harry and Meghan they look like the perfect match. I do love a royal wedding :)

    Right best get scraping my windscreen (bet meghan doesnt have to worry about anymore:D Jeeves sort my car will you pronto:D)

    Have a good day all and hope all the aches and pains disappear quickley
  • System
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    edited 28 November 2017 at 11:48AM
    Judi wrote: »
    I had an awful thought concerning my daughter in SA yesterday. I read an article in the news about the slaughtering of white farmers in South Africa.... Whilst i am not worrying about her being killed i think she is pretty well protected but i wondered if she died what she would want done with her body. Would she want to be buried there or come home. I think she would rather be buried where her children are but i really ought to ask....

    Well i wished i'd not asked:

    I don't want to to be buried... I want to be given to those people who do shows with dead bodies and human parts. Body works I think it's called

    i hope your joking

    No

    im glad i asked (not)

    ok can i trade you a normal burial for 50 chickens and a rooster

    Will find out the name of these people. I think i get frozen and then taken around the world for shows

    no trade then?

    No

    i did offer to throw in a goat but she was having none of it.
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  • CRANKY40
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    edited 28 November 2017 at 2:01PM
    Thank you all for your suggestions. No news yet but I've rung PALS at the hospital and left a message on their answering machine.

    Judi the late Mr Cranky wanted a viking funeral on the River Mersey. As it's a shipping channel and I was dealing with a very upset 4 year old at the time as well as my own grief, what he actually got was a normal cremation at the local crematorium. Just saying :rotfl:

    Edited to re-iterate my thanks. There will be no operation. He will be kept pain free and comfortable now for as long as it takes. I have had confirmation from the consultant that the DNR will now remain in place. Heaven help them if it doesn't. If anyone overturns it they will be wishing they'd chosen a different career.
  • dp1
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    Hi everyone...another ill one I'm afraid!
    I spent most of the weekend in bed after doctor gave me antibiotics for a chest infection. I went to work yesterday, but was shattered when I got home. Woke up this morning....felt awful so I phoned in sick and came back to bed. I'm planning to do the same again tomorrow if I feel as bad. My cough is slightly better as in it's not continuous now, but I feel really achy and fluey.
    Its not helped by a couple of !!!!!y members of staff in a very small team, who are really irritating me at the minute. I've been there the longest and am feeling very pushed out at the minute...my boss seems oblivious to it. Well. it's really one !!!!!y female...the other just follows. Never mind, I'll cope. I used to like working with men....far easier I think.
    Cranky- that's awful...please try to complain to whoever you can. My mum actually refused to send my dad to hospital recently until she'd spoken to myself and my brothers, and the doctor did listen to her. As it worked out it was the best thing for him to go and he was home after a few days. She said she told them at the hospital about his DNR and they did seem to listen...I didn't know doctors could override this!
    I know not everyone will agree, but I do hope my dad 'goes' in his sleep or sitting in his chair one day...before his dementia gets even worse. I would be very very sad, but my dad I have now isn't my 'proper dad' anymore....dementia took him. If that makes sense.
  • elona
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    Cranky

    I know you left a message for PALS but could somewhere like Age Concern (not sure if they are still called that) take up the cudgels so to speak?Surely there must be ethical breaches when father is unable to give consent and all the next of kin are against the procedure.

    Ironic that if you had all been insisting everything and anything should be done then you would probably have been overruled by TPTB.

    dumpling

    I hope the meeting goes well and that the day is not too exhausting physically and mentally.

    Gers and Lainey

    Take care of yourself and try to rest when you get the chance.

    Most of the presents are wrapped and in gift boxes but there are a few that are still to delivered so fingers crossed. I really don't want to be in huge crowds unless it is an emergency. Hoping older dd now has a gas supply fixed after a panic last night.

    Just a heads up that winter fuel payments are now being paid as
    I got mine today.

    Still trying to make space in the freezer so will have a pork loin chop tonight and tomorrow with some peas and a baked potato.

    Hugs to all
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  • elona
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    Sorry Cranky

    I missed your edit but I am so pleased that your father will be made comfortable rather than subjected to painful and distressing procedures.
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  • karcher
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    CRANKY40 wrote: »

    Edited to re-iterate my thanks. There will be no operation. He will be kept pain free and comfortable now for as long as it takes. I have had confirmation from the consultant that the DNR will now remain in place. Heaven help them if it doesn't. If anyone overturns it they will be wishing they'd chosen a different career.

    Really pleased to hear that Cranky.
    'I'm sinking in the quicksand of my thought
    And I ain't got the power anymore'
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