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When did Free Speech disappear?

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  • pepper77_2
    pepper77_2 Posts: 2,997 Forumite
    Ames wrote: »
    A public toilet which can be used by anyone, rather than the usual ones which are either male or female.
    Yuk!

    So when I'm knocking the last few drips off my pecker Sevendayweekend, evenasus and Marisco could be standing behind me waiting for a seat in the stalls?

    Or are women(hope no-one is offended if I de-neutralize them) using urinals nowadays?
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    pepper77 wrote: »
    !!!!!! is a gender neutral toilet?

    For me it would depend on what they were like.

    I have no problem using the loo in a petrol station where there is only one and anybody can use it, for example.
  • Ames
    Ames Posts: 18,459 Forumite
    edited 15 November 2017 at 5:05PM
    You mean it's a toilet with sink in a designated as such room ,with a lock on the door and it can used by anyone?


    And people are ANTI this?

    Yes. Although the sinks could be outside the lockable cubicles.
    pepper77 wrote: »
    Yuk!

    So when I'm knocking the last few drips off my pecker Sevendayweekend, evenasus and Marisco could be standing behind me waiting for a seat in the stalls?

    Or are women(hope no-one is offended if I de-neutralize them) using urinals nowadays?

    Obviously the urinal would be in a cubicle.

    ETA: but there is such a thing as a she-wee which allows women to pee standing up. Quite popular at festivals where sitting is not appealing.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • Jackmydad wrote: »
    So let me get this right. . .
    People are reporting posts on behalf of people who are offended by other people's posts. . .
    ....and of course if the vote had been 52% / 48% in favour of remain I'm sure UKIP would have happily accepted the result as the will of the people and wouldn't dream of campaigning for another referendum.
    onlyroz wrote: »
    Free *speech* is one thing. However, the Equality Act 2010 ensures that our *actions* aren't discriminatory against the following protected characteristics:


    age
    disability
    gender reassignment
    marriage or civil partnership (in employment only)
    pregnancy and maternity
    race
    religion or belief
    sex
    sexual orientation


    You can *think* whatever you like about the above characteristics but you'll quite rightly get in a whole load of trouble if you *act* in a discriminatory way.

    And yet it's acceptable ( both on MSE and IRL) to say appallingly rude and negative things about religion and people of faith and yet one slightly questioning remark on gender and sexual orientation brings an avalanche of bigotry accusations falling on you.
  • redux
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    pepper77 wrote: »
    !!!!!! is a gender neutral toilet?

    One which says on the door

    Gender neutral toilet (with urinals)

    ... as well as one which says

    Gender neutral toilet (without urinals)

    I thought this was a joke when I saw it in the pub a couple of weeks ago (and it made no difference at all to who was going in either) but it might be coming soon to anywhere.

    Sensibly, in future people can design new buildings with only one set of toilets, maybe with a partition or two, but some things might look a bit daft for a while

    Going back years, one place I went only had a shower in the men's toilets, so the women had to organise themselves to picket it for a while in the evening.
  • Ames wrote: »
    Yes. Although the sinks could be outside the lockable cubicles.



    Obviously the urinal would be in a cubicle.

    ETA: but there is such a thing as a she-wee which allows women to pee standing up. Quite popular at festivals where sitting is not appealing.

    I don't see any reason for urinals to be in cubicles - most of us women don't have good enough eyesight to spot anything possessed by most men.😉
  • But I never said I was in favour of Censorship? No one on this thread has.

    Very few people admit to being in favour of censorship, they just try to shut people up when they say something they don't agree with.
  • I want the choice not to have some hairy-ar$£d builder to be using the urinal when I am using the toilet,or taking any granddaughter I may have in the future to use it. It's not about the label on the door.

    As for something someone asked me, I meant my original post to be more about in real life than on this forum.
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  • Ames wrote: »
    Yes. Although the sinks could be outside the lockable cubicles.



    Obviously the urinal would be in a cubicle.

    ETA: but there is such a thing as a she-wee which allows women to pee standing up. Quite popular at festivals where sitting is not appealing.
    I want the choice not to have some hairy-ar$£d builder to be using the urinal when I am using the toilet,or taking any granddaughter I may have in the future to use it. It's not about the label on the door.

    As for something someone asked me, I meant my original post to be more about in real life than on this forum.

    Simpler just to get rid of urinals.
  • I am concerned that it appears to have become impossible to have rational debates on certain issues.

    Why are am I and other people not allowed to state our distaste for little children being taught things that small children should not know about....

    ....or express our distaste for gender-neutral toilets...

    .....or our dislike of politically-correct appointments.....

    ....or our concern about the amount of people entering our country....

    .....or our worries about terrorism.......

    ...... or the sidelining of Christianity whilst Islam is lauded and paraded......

    I agree with a previous point that this is largely if not entirely nonsense. You can talk about all this stuff. The last one sounds a bit weird. Clearly judging by your thankers it's a right wing perception. Perhaps it how you talk about this things.
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