MoT Fail

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arcon5 wrote: »

Yes they are and there's an option on the testers system they click if they've performed a repair during the mot.

Citation needed.

System

arcon5 wrote: »

Tbf headlamp aim isn't really the sort of thing you can check yourself. Yes it should have been done on the service. And yes ops being a tad dramatic

One headlamp lower than the other to the point it is a MOT fail sticks out like a sore thumb when driving at night, especially when pulling up to an object in front of the vehicle.

Hoof_Hearted

I don't think I ever said it was a big deal. I am just surprised that, given I was paying for a service and MoT, he didn't just turn the relevant screw and pass it. For all I know, the same bloke did it 5 minutes later.

Perhaps all you experts who would spot and rectify the fault yourselves could explain why the headlight would go out of alignment anyway.

custardy

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

I don't think I ever said it was a big deal. I am just surprised that, given I was paying for a service and MoT, he didn't just turn the relevant screw and pass it. For all I know, the same bloke did it 5 minutes later.

Perhaps all you experts who would spot and rectify the fault yourselves could explain why the headlight would go out of alignment anyway.

See all those bumps you hit on the road through the year?

AdrianC

Tarambor wrote: »

arcon5 wrote:

Yes they are and there's an option on the testers system they click if they've performed a repair during the mot.

Citation needed.

He's absolutely right. They pick - or should pick- the item from the list, then they're given the choice as to whether it's fail, advise or PRS - Pass and Repair at Station. PRS items are not printed on the certificate, but they are fed back to DVSA's statistics-gathering.

My local tester will do minor stuff like light adjustment on the ramp, if it's quick and simple - or PRS and tell me to sort it before I leave - but if it's failing anyway, it gets failed. Fine example - a recent one I took in failed on a sidelight bulb (I'd checked with ignition on, and dim-dip masked it) and a slightly smeary wiper. Both those would normally be PRS, but it also failed on a track rod end, with the other advised. It got booked in for the TREs and re-test, with the bulb and wiper (6mo Bosch blade, the screen just needed a good clean to get rid of traffic film residue) sorted before it came back in.

Car_54

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

I don't think I ever said it was a big deal. I am just surprised that, given I was paying for a service and MoT, he didn't just turn the relevant screw and pass it. For all I know, the same bloke did it 5 minutes later.
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Someone turned the screw and it passed. What's the problem with that?

Blacksheepcat

Just had my MOT and asked regarding this very point ; They cant carry out even minor work without first asking the vehicle owners permission - thats before any MOT specific regulations - so would simply add minor things to the list of quick 20 second jobs in a service but would have to notify the owner first.... And if it requires anything more than "minor adjustment, IE seconds of adjusting and not actually unscrewing, or modifying anything" then it is entirely at the discretion of the tester, BUT again subject to whether it classes as "work" on the vehicle. IE Replacing a bulb NO, but turning one a mm or two in to account for a poor connection is fine.

DUTR

Tarambor wrote: »

Yes. (Well I wouldn't as I look after mine so they never fail on headlamp aim)


The MOT is an inspection only. There is no onus on them to do it although some will as a goodwill gesture but they're not required to. I'll ask you this:

Given you are supposed to keep a vehicle to the MOT standards at all times and not just for the test and that you'll have been servicing it in line with the manufacturers recommendations then why did it fail on low aim at all? Personally I'd be asking the garage who serviced it why they didn't do the job properly. If it is such a simple thing then why didn't you do it before the test?

As another poster pointed out, it depends what kind of service the OP asked for? Against what they were willing to pay for a service.

jbond

Blacksheepcat wrote: »

Just had my MOT and asked regarding this very point ; They cant carry out even minor work without first asking the vehicle owners permission

There must be some flexibility here, once took my car to council mot place, and they adjusted the beam without asking. I did ask him what he was doing mind, and he just said, no big deal! (maybe because it was so trivial?

LandyAndy

jbond wrote: »

There must be some flexibility here, once took my car to council mot place, and they adjusted the beam without asking. I did ask him what he was doing mind, and he just said, no big deal! (maybe because it was so trivial?

Same here. On of my cars failed on a blown bulb. Local garage just changed it and passed the car without asking me. Didn't even tell me when I picked the car up. Only knew when I found the fail paperwork when I got home.