Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2½

Forgetful

Asda just wants rid of the APG... no excuses ... and i dont think the few people using the APG system does affect them financially.. like they say.. less then 1% of customers use the apg. But like everyone is saying.. if they are cheap then why not just keep the apg going... its cos they have been informed by the TROUTS that the 1% of us are using it and its somthing the trouts do not like!!! And then its like... The trouts can use the APG too... but they dont cos maybe they are too lazy...
Same as when we use a coupon for a product in any supermarket the trouts do not like it... but then they could use it as well.. but they dont mainly cos they are too lazy ... but then if its me.. I will be asking the customer where/how they got the coupon!!!

Anon

TrulyMadly wrote: »

Don't know what you are watching but remember that the bodyguard starts at 9:)

Think I'll have a quick cuppa if anyone fancies one

Just watching now :cool:.

Worth watching on iPlayer if you haven't started watching already.

Anon

Savvybuyer

Anon wrote: »

I have never found them particularly cheap either on many items but maybe that was comparing against APG prices (matching the cheapest minus 10%) - they also (as others) have different pack sizes for some items to give an impression that they are cheaper.

Anon

I thought you were referring to Mr A at first, but I now see you are talking about Aldi and Lidl and looking at their prices against 10% off A's APG cheapest competitor. The pound stores of course also have smaller pack sizes sometimes to charge as 'cheap' as £1.

Mr A was also seen as a 'cheap' supermarket, or at least not an expensive place to shop and winning The Grocer awards etc. Among with the APG, they are now doing away with the "Asda Price" slogan. No longer Asda Price - hopefully not moving to Sains. expensive price:eek:. (Even if that part of the business, if approval is eventually given to merge, will not change its name to Sains.) Despite being seen as cheap, A can be pretty expensive, as we know, compared to other major supermarkets (who each can also be expensive on items they don't have on offer at a particular time).

A can also be not particularly cheap without an APG or some non-grocery items can be best bought elsewhere or competitors have cheaper non-comparable items of the same type. Depending on what people are buying, A can be pretty expensive if the APG isn't used. (Meaning that, as fewer than 1% of receipts are checked, more than 99% of shops are expensive if some of the items on them are pretty expensive:rotfl:. That's what the vast majority of people are paying.) The incentive with a price guarantee is to put prices up, safe in the knowledge that the vast majority of people will still pay them and, if challenged by a customer who thinks prices are too high, you can simply point to the price guarantee and the customer can stay as they can get it cheaper from you that way. It's a loyalty scheme in a way and the voucher, if not accepted elsewhere, causes people to have to stay buying from you. But, with the withdrawal of the APG, will prices be lower?

There will be more competition on the instore (or online) prices and the incentive for consumers now is to go elsewhere if the prices elsewhere are cheaper. This will cause A to lower its prices as it competes with other businesses to maintain custom, having no price guarantee to fall back on. However this is all theory and assumes that consumers do look around and shop around for general groceries (the area we are talking about) and will buy from the cheapest place. In practice, they will be likely to continue to shop at one place, are likely to be unaware that an equivalent item elsewhere is cheaper and will still pay expensive prices on some items as they have already been doing without the vast majority of them checking the APG. Most people make extremely poor purchases and pay over the odds on some things. We have been claiming their difference back.

davemorton

Anon wrote: »

How long do P4yPal take to respond to emails? I sent a message two weeks ago and got an auto response giving the same advice that I had already read on their website (a very annoying system - why would I email if their online information had answered the question?! :mad:). I replied asking for a response and have heard nothing :huh:.

Anon

Have you tried calling them, I found them very helpful when I had to call them before.

Savvybuyer

:think: Reading the questions and answers a bit more, A seem to me to become quite adamant about "Everyday Low Prices" near to the end. Two answers in a row, basically reinforcing the same thing; as if the customer is asking a question, being told "no", is asking it again and getting told a further, now little irritated and firm "no".

"Everyday Low Prices": we've heard similar to this before. Mr M had operations at one stage about everyday prices. They tend to be prices that, because they are maintained every day, are a little bit higher than the lowest flash offer price that might be offered on a promotion elsewhere but not as high as the highest price to which the item might go. In other words, it's likely we are not getting the cheapest price and instead we need to pounce on the cheap flash offer price as, although we are not paying high price in terms of the high price offered at the other stores when the item is not on promotion (high-low pricing, full price, on offer and back again), we are paying more than the half price of elsewhere in order so that the business with the 'everyday pricing' can maintain it for that longer period.

It all averages out the same for the store in the end. Probably:rotfl:. (In other words, as businesses' aim is to make profits, we are not saving money by buying at the everyday price - it's higher than the loss leader half price offer of elsewhere that we need to buy at during the rarer period when the competitor has that item on and it is cheaper. However, depends on how much promotion it gets from the competitor and whether people start switch to that store if they are made aware more generally, by mass media, of that promotion and realise 'not best to buy it at A' - if there now is more competition, due to no price promise scheme anywhere, that could mean A does have to bring its everyday price down. However - this already happens anyway, with the loss leader prices at Easter and Christmas on fruit & veg. And then A has still sometimes been 1p more expensive than Aldi/Lidl. The loss leaders are there simply to get people into the store, in the hope that, at these busy shopping times, people, having chosen the store on the basis of their fruit and veg. offers, then do their entire shopping there - including of course, lots of expensive items that are cheaper elsewhere. And then check the APG in past years - or more than 99% of the time don't - and find they still don't get the full refund due to prices on the fruit & veg. they bought cheap in their store being more expensive at the exact same equivalents elsewhere as the other store had a loss leader on the other variety.)

mhoc

Aldis main attraction is that the choice of items is severely limited - nothing worse than standing in front of a shampoo, fabric conditioner, biscuit shelf etc and having to choose from 250 different items in various flavours and sizes.
And the price you pay is fairly consistent - non of this roll back, buy 3 for £5, BOGOF, half price, pack shrinkage nonsense.
one thing I have run out of is canned beans so next time we are in Aldi I can get a single or a pack of 4 - thats the choice.
Or I could waste time on mysupermarket evaluating the best value beans in our local supermarkets which are Asda, Tesco, Morrisons, Co-op, Marks and Sainsburys - what brands are on offer and the price per 100g, how much beans to how much sauce ...
Life is short enough

Anon

I have remembered why I started binge watching series on catchup - I am too impatient to wait to find out what happens next . I am now stuck until next Sunday to find out what happens in The Bodyguard!

Great drama.

Anon

Anon

davemorton wrote: »

Have you tried calling them, I found them very helpful when I had to call them before.

I did when I originally faced the problem and they said to wait a few days for the system to update. I have waited and it still doesn't let me add a new account (I took one bank account off so at minimum should be able to add one, but it is not letting me :mad:).

The PostOffice Savings application system is also playing silly bs .

Anon

Savvybuyer

Vs M
1x Fairy Washing Up Liquid Apple Orchard (1.41l) £2.00 £2.00

Savvybuyer

Well, there's still time yet!:D I've got nearly £17 from this one womble - biggest womble I have ever had!:j:j:j Get in!:D

Vs T
1x Glenmorangie The Original Single Malt Scotch Whisky (70cl) £36.00 £26.00:j:T:T




2x Elastoplast Extra Tough Waterproof Fabric Plasters 12 pack (12pk) £4.40 £2.20

Still too expensive for some just over half-size packs!:rotfl:Plus some Vanish stain remover that went £7 vs £6 at T and some other items that lost I dare not even bother work it out but a couple of soft drinks got 70p back.

I am still nowhere near finished checking my receipts. I have the most amount of wombles I have ever had from one day, and found even more than I have got immediately before Christmas in other years. Just from visiting two stores as well - though someone managed to leave me one from a store I didn't visit (result: 10p:(). I was best staying where I was - I've visited five different stores in a day in the past and got fewer receipts from them all combined than I have from yesterday.

The one for nearly 17 quid came immediately after one for about £8.50 as well:rotfl::T:A. Don't know what I will buy - I don't usually spend £17 in a single shop:eek::rotfl::rotfl:.

(I should probably just forget about checking whether I can technically get something for a cheaper price elsewhere, even if paying by cash/debit card. Just buy some household item or something at whatever price it is:cool:. Or maybe I should try for 'everything half the price at T' (if I can find enough of any such things these days) and squeeze another £9 out of it, what do you think?)