Smart Meters

matelodave

giraffejoe said:

I had a smart meter fitted by eon in December. It has a 19P serial code so annoyingly it looks like a first gen version.
Any way I'm coming to switch and want to know that I can switch to a company that doesn't use smart meters. I just press 9 on the meter to get a reading and submit them manually? Have I got this right?

Yes, my smart meter stopped being smart in 2018 and I've been with three suppliers since then - just give them a manual reading every month.
At some date, they may decide to try and enroll it onto the DCC but I doubt that the world will stop spinning if they can't or don't

carl.waring

matelodave said:

giraffejoe said:

I had a smart meter fitted by eon in December. It has a 19P serial code so annoyingly it looks like a first gen version.
Any way I'm coming to switch and want to know that I can switch to a company that doesn't use smart meters. I just press 9 on the meter to get a reading and submit them manually? Have I got this right?

Yes, my smart meter stopped being smart in 2018 and I've been with three suppliers since then - just give them a manual reading every month.
At some date, they may decide to try and enroll it onto the DCC but I doubt that the world will stop spinning if they can't or don't

Yes, that's the plan. The SMETS1 meters will be firmware-upgraded to work with any supplier.

Talldave

carl.waring said:

matelodave said:

giraffejoe said:

I had a smart meter fitted by eon in December. It has a 19P serial code so annoyingly it looks like a first gen version.
Any way I'm coming to switch and want to know that I can switch to a company that doesn't use smart meters. I just press 9 on the meter to get a reading and submit them manually? Have I got this right?

Yes, my smart meter stopped being smart in 2018 and I've been with three suppliers since then - just give them a manual reading every month.
At some date, they may decide to try and enroll it onto the DCC but I doubt that the world will stop spinning if they can't or don't

Yes, that's the plan. The SMETS1 meters will be firmware-upgraded to work with any supplier.

How many times does a plan have to be changed before it's reclassified as a dream?

carl.waring

Huh? 🤔 What do you think has changed? That was always the plan, as far as I know.

MWT

carl.waring said:

Huh? 🤔 What do you think has changed? That was always the plan, as far as I know.

If the date slips often enough and far enough it shifts from a plan to a hope and then a dream

We are still in 'hope' territory at the moment, it really isn't a 'plan' any more, lets hope the plan doesn't slip to 'dream' status

carl.waring

As the actual timescale has never been specified then your comment is meaningless.
That is still the plan and there's no reason to think it's not going to happen at some point.
Either that or they will exchange them for SMETS2's I would assume.

Talldave

Dates? Remember, it's all finished this year? Oh no hang on, our totally unrealistic and unachievable deadline has suddenly become unrealistic and unachievable. Damn, let's move the goalposts.  DCC enrolment of SMETS1? Well we've done a couple so the remaining couple of million should be done by, erm, Christmas?  What year? Oh, umm, now you're asking.....

carl.waring

And of course you've never had to change any of your (rather smaller-scale than this!) plans at all, right? 🙄

brewerdave

carl.waring said:

And of course you've never had to change any of your (rather smaller-scale than this!) plans at all, right? 🙄

I think that the point that the other cynical contributors are making ,is that SMETS1 meters should never have been rolled out in the first place. A fundamental part of the smart meter philosophy SHOULD have been interoperability from day 1, NOT a possible addon years down the road. It is my belief that the majority of SMETS1 meters will end up being scrapped and replaced at huge further cost by SMETS X ,as this "over the air " upgrade will be a VERY SLOW train coming (or not) !!

Talldave

Of course I have. But I was fortunate enough to be involved in early discussions on Smart meters/IHDs (from a product development angle) and it was clear to me then that those in the energy industry responsible for the rollout had absolutely no idea what they were doing and no chance of meeting any of the deadlines being thrown around.  I was right. I don't believe 2024 is achievable either and I'm pretty confident I will be proven right. I have predicted before that I think most SMETS1s will be ripped out and replaced with SMETS2; firmware updates for meters developed nearly a decade ago? Not going to happen.