'There’s something ugly about leaving a woman and baby at a bus stop' blog discussion

Carmina_Piranha_3

well mine's 2 but i take the pram with us on the bus to the farm etc. because we're going to be out for 6 hours or more and because he will only walk a mile or two between rests. i prefer for him to be in the buggy when we're by the canal or the lake. it's not laziness - i teach him to hold my hand and stay safe but young children are sometimes impulsive and don't always follow the rules 100% of the time. it's not worth the risk.

i'm rubbish at carrying bags and keeping hold of him at the same time, i'm just too clumsy. so if i'm crossing very dangerous road junctions then i want the buggy for that too. i just can't manage more than one bag and keep him properly safe.

i've tied something around his bike so it will dangle from the pram handle when he's resting and the picnic etc. fits underneath with out coats etc.

i'm dreading the time when we can't use the pram as a dumping ground any more :rotfl:

and frankly, i see toddlers running wild in shops and think their mothers should be using a pram

martyncr

lindseykim13 wrote: »

There are a damn sight more cars in car pasrks these days with idiots who drive them, do you think it is safe to cart 2 perhaps 3 children or more across a busy car park where morans reverse before looking, i've nearly been run over many times cause people dont look, the parking spaces for those with children are for safety reasons, and you'll find those with disabled badges still use them also.

Disabled bays in supermarkets are routinely abused, being right near the main entrance and cash machines. I cannot hang round near the disabled bays causing an obstruction while I wait for the able to move. Secondly, many blue badge holders are parents, either disabled themselves or caring for disabled offspring. I use a wheelchair and cannot feasibly use the upper level of a car park where the store only has one lift, if the lift breaks down I'm stuck! Rolling around a car park on a wheelchair is no safer, especially when your no taller than many 10/12 year olds when sat down. People walk into the chair even if I shout at them, they insist on walking between the chair and the isle shelves even though the isle is largely empty. Heck some people even seem to think they can just grab hold of my chair and start pushing me where I've just been 'because they are helping'. The one thing I notice when leaving is that people will stop beside a stationary car and the moment I move they walk in front of it. On many occasions I've found that people like to walk behind the car while I'm reversing and will wait when I stop too. Pedestrian stupidity is often more to blame than the drivers. Many of the problems you identify would largely disappear if the major supermarkets managed their car parks properly instead of putting on a show.

GreyPilgrim

I was at the national express depo in London Victoria years and years ago. Had a ticket for a much later coach but the woman at the desk said if I went to the departure 'gate', the driver would let me on if there were spaces. There were three of us waiting there in the same position...middle aged guy at the front of the queue, then me, then a woman with a toddler

When the regular passengers got on the coach and the driver announced there were only two spare seats, the chap in front of me got on. I did my chivalrous bit and said "come on mate, why not let the lass get on, she's got a kid with her. I don't mind giving up my seat and waiting for the next one, do you not fancy giving up yours and letting these two jump on?"

It was great...he REALLY didn't want to give up his seat but everyone was looking at me as the big hero....the woman, the kiddy, the driver, the rest of the passengers...and looking at him as if he would be the biggest b***ard alive if said no. In the end he agreed and walked away scowling.

I went across to the travellers tavern and got drunk waiting for the next coach feeling very good about myself.

Still not got an answer from martin on why he didn't speak up though...Can we not rename this thread to "There's something ugly about a journalist wringing his hands about a young mother in difficulties, but at the same time not doing anything about it"?

Sukatoko

I agree speak up! I have no idea what my rights are but that does not stop me. I always do what I think is right and fair even when I get in trouble. Its a weird thing that people say nothing in this country. If I have baby with me and people don't move I ask them politely to move. Most people are happy to move some people just don't think or are in world of own. I do for other people too and give up my seat for elderly, people with kids, less able and people who look like they need it more than me. If people don't move (without reason) then I make sure everyone else knows. Also standing up on buses might give me bad wind which they don't seem to like:-)

Tojo_Ralph

MSE_Lawrence wrote: »

There’s something very distasteful about leaving a mother and baby to sit and wait though. Sometimes health and safety rules go a bit far.

As my old boss used to say ..... Don't bring me problems, bring me solutions.