Watchdog next week

alnsv1000s

Mr Caudle keeps stating the word "WE" but the phone dealers that he is talking about, have asked on numerous occassions, as to who "WE" are.

Saying "oh, we have had 42 calls and 1 email is not good enough"

The IMPDA will simply not answer our questions properly.

If you call yourself "The Independant Mobile Phone Dealers Association", then you are presenting the Independant Dealers. We want to know which dealers the IMPDA represents as we have not asked to be represented by them.

What they want is to publicise their website, you then click on one of the very few links, to go to one of the founders Sales websites, which offer deals that no one else can match, but you have to wait a week for these deals to come available.

They also say on their website advertising section as follows:
"Exclusive Advertising on ALL pages including the Home page. We can help you by placing your banner ad or sponsored link on our pages which is seen by thousands each day. choose A PLAN TODAY AND BE ADVERTISING WITHIN 12 HOURS"

Charging up to £205 per month for you to advertise on thier, when in fact according to www.alexa.com" they are ranked 3694812 http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?url=impda.co.uk

They need some way of targeting people to thier holyer than though website, when in fact they are not receiving thousands of hits per day.

A few of us just want to see some credibility from the IMPDA, just like we want the credibility of our industry cleaned up, and regulated a bit better.

gtz101

Its been on the news before:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/74000/bb/74462_16x9_bb.asx

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/78000/bb/78022_16x9_bb.asx

BTW: When is this programme on Watchdog coming coz next week the programme is on something else?

impda

I will just say this

alnsv1000s I am not getting into any more explainations here because I have addressed the issue on your sites forum, if you choose to ignore what has been said along with the other 4-5 members out of over 400 who DID NOT RESPOND that is up to you, just because YOU dont agree does not mean others dont have an opinion, which is why we were contacted by them.

The public here are interested in the issue and the dealers like "loveguy" deserve their trust. not your groups never ending attempt to discredit the IMPDA, you yourself by your postings are bringing the industry down now, when we should be working togeter for a solution.

You have by your very words just said what we have been saying all along

just like we want the credibility of our industry cleaned up, and regulated a bit better

. so lets work together to find a solution I am sure the public would want to know of your group

What are your suggestions for stopping them getting ripped off and how would YOUR group bring the trust back to the dealers, those are thye most important questions. By your postings you are now making the dealer industry look like silly children squabbling. I would suggest that before posting anything else wait and see what Watchdog has to say.

mobilejunkie

"The public" is me and several thousand other people. Me (for one) doesn't like dealers speaking for them; this forum is for "us" and dealers may have a useful input, but shouldn't use it to further their own particular ends.

impda

Mobile Junkie

I totally agree with you

alnsv1000s

mobilejunkie wrote: »

"The public" is me and several thousand other people. Me (for one) doesn't like dealers speaking for them; this forum is for "us" and dealers may have a useful input, but shouldn't use it to further their own particular ends.

Hi Mate, could you clarify this please.

The only reason that i have put the details that i have, is that the effect of the IMPDA and what they want to achieve will affect "US", and I feel that you should be aware of an issue that may get in the way of future promotions that you currently receive.

It may also have a knock on effect in that once the deals dry up, the prolific cashback companies, will not be getting the customers, and therefore will not be getting the income, to pay cashbacks that are owed. This could result in situations such as with Chatterbox, and these companies can cease trading, leaving many thousands of customers short changed.

If i was anyone on this forum, in the present climate, I would only take up a high cashback offer from a large organisation, that has been trading for many years and has a big pot of money in the bank.

Cashback promotions definately needs tightening up and be better regulated, so the consumer gets exactly what they are offered with the minimum of fuss.

I have not just come onto this forum since this issue has started, but came onto the forum to help and advise where possible. I also do not come on this forum to sell or promote anything for my own benefit, which is why i will never post my shop details.

A little inside knowledge never hurts.

mobilejunkie

"Tightening up" is already having a noticeable effect in worsening the deals without improving the service. Why would I want the heavy hands of well-meaning uniformed (who've never actually HAD a cashback deal usually) or headline grabbers with an entirely different agenda messing things up for me? Anyone can protect themselves without any of that - I do. No-one forces anyone into these deals - or sends them to the companies they choose. I repeat; caveat emptor.

On here there ares sometimes people saying anyone taking out one of htese deals is afool expecting something for nothing. That is one extreme. I agree all these dealers are dishonest - unfortunately, that's life for most companies nowadays. If people are SO easilly fooled by the deals without putting in the research then it's their risk and (to some extent) their own fault. NO amount of beaurocratic interference can EVER protect those people from themselves; it would merely destroy things for the rest of us.

Wasn't one of the intents - the MAIN intent in fact - of the IMPDA to BAN cash-back deals? Or was that another crusader recently? If so, IT is the thing which needs banning!

alnsv1000s

You are correct. It was the Impda who wanted a complete ban. They wrote to the networks requesting this but have not let us know the response.

gtz101

mobilejunkie wrote: »

"Tightening up" is already having a noticeable effect in worsening the deals without improving the service. Why would I want the heavy hands of well-meaning uniformed (who've never actually HAD a cashback deal usually) or headline grabbers with an entirely different agenda messing things up for me? Anyone can protect themselves without any of that - I do. No-one forces anyone into these deals - or sends them to the companies they choose. I repeat; caveat emptor.

On here there ares sometimes people saying anyone taking out one of htese deals is afool expecting something for nothing. That is one extreme. I agree all these dealers are dishonest - unfortunately, that's life for most companies nowadays. If people are SO easilly fooled by the deals without putting in the research then it's their risk and (to some extent) their own fault. NO amount of beaurocratic interference can EVER protect those people from themselves; it would merely destroy things for the rest of us.

Wasn't one of the intents - the MAIN intent in fact - of the IMPDA to BAN cash-back deals? Or was that another crusader recently? If so, IT is the thing which needs banning!

I agree with this however my own view of this is that I wuld like to see to a certain extent some regulations involved as far as cashbacks are concerned.Such as giving a certain reasonable period of time in which retailers must give to customers in sending their claims in.

mobilejunkie

Well, why DO people choose dealers who only give 14 days? Surely that's up to them if they're that foolhardy? The easier it is (and it isn't THAT difficult if you invest a certain amount of time and research) the less good the deals.