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  • Yazmina
    Yazmina Posts: 310 Forumite
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    The top coat is Valspar premium walls & ceilings, blend v700, interior Matt.
  • Ok, sounds like you have made a few mistakes and have hopefully learned from it!

    Just don't get all emulshional on us...:rotfl:

    As requested above do post the exact paint you have used. You ought to have used emulsion for walls and ceilings. Undercoat, be it solvent (smelly oil based) or water (surprisingly not so smelly, quicker drying -often a couple of hours in warm dry conditions- and based on water!) is usually for wood or metal as a coat after a primer and before a top coat (Matt, satin or gloss) of the final colour.

    Emulsion is designed for interior walls -with variants for kitchens and bathrooms being more moisture resistant and withstanding more cleaning. To cover strong colours usually requires several coats and can usually be thinned slightly (10% of water added) for use with a roller. Bag the roller to keep from drying out between coats (ok for a day or two) or wash out in water (takes a surprising amount of washing!!) and dry.
    Similarly emulsion (and also other water based paints) will wash off the hands etc easily before it has dried.

    Solvent based paints, until properly dried, can be thinned with turps/white spirit and then cleaned off with a proprietary hand cleaner designed for oils such as swarfega. Once dry it is a bugg** to get off but will wear off after a few years.....:)
  • Yazmina
    Yazmina Posts: 310 Forumite
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    Thanks for all the advice. I'm less worried about my hands and more concerned about my bedroom walls now. Will the interior matt I've bought not adhere to the undercoat I've already applied?
  • Biggles
    Biggles Posts: 8,209 Forumite
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    Yazmina wrote: »
    Will the interior matt I've bought not adhere to the undercoat I've already applied?
    Yes, it'll be fine. You may need an extra coat, though (of either), for good coverage.
  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 2,988 Forumite
    Yazmina wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice. I'm less worried about my hands and more concerned about my bedroom walls now. Will the interior matt I've bought not adhere to the undercoat I've already applied?
    Provided it has totally dried it will be fine.
  • Yazmina
    Yazmina Posts: 310 Forumite
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    Went back to B&Q and they recommended lightly sanding the oil based undercoat before using the interior matt. Panic over. Cheers.
  • TheCyclingProgrammer
    TheCyclingProgrammer Posts: 3,702 Forumite
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    edited 18 October 2017 at 6:43PM
    Yazmina wrote: »
    The top coat is Valspar premium walls & ceilings, blend v700, interior Matt.

    Good paint, used it myself in three rooms. But I'm not so sure it will go over a solvent based undercoat without giving it a good sand down first to give it a key.

    The Valspar premium blend is an all in one primer/top coat and having used both dark and light colours, found its very opaque so you may have found it covered just fine in two coats - did you try a patch of it first? Oh well, bit late now I guess.

    A few tips with the Valspar...make sure you load your brush properly when cutting in and resist the temptation to keep going back over it if you've missed a bit - you can get it on the second coat.

    When rolling, similarly don't keep going back over the same spot too many times. Get the paint on, lay it off with the roller with a few strokes every metre or so and leave it. What I've found with the Valspar is it's prone to pick up (especially on the first coat) if you go over it too many times (where you start taking the paint back off the wall again). The paint looks lighter when it's wet so it might look like you've left streaks and you'll be tempted to go back over it but as long as you've not left any raised paint edges it will dry fine.

    On all three occasions I've used it, it's looked very patchy after the first coat. Again, don't obsess over it on the first coat. You'll cover any patches on the second coat and it will dry to a very nice finish. Treat it with kid gloves for the first week until it's fully cured, after which it really is scrubbable.

    Finally, it's one of the best paints I've ever used in terms of the ability to touch up marks without it being noticeable. It dries to the same colour without fail. So don't worry if you've missed a few spots after two coats - you can do some spot touch ups (a really good quality, small artist brush works best).
  • Yazmina
    Yazmina Posts: 310 Forumite
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    No I only tested with the samples and found that the silver grey looked different in two test patches on top of the pink. That's what led me to buy the (wrong) undercoat. I've bought standard interior matt for the rest of the undercoating.
  • Yazmina
    Yazmina Posts: 310 Forumite
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    Hi. Me again. Will sanding or painting over the oil based paint with interior matt get rid of the smell?
  • chappers
    chappers Posts: 2,988 Forumite
    no you will just have to wait that out I would give it a day or two to really cure before painting over it.
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