Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Filo25

ukcarper wrote: »

If you were in the PMs position what would you do, granted extreme brexiters are not helping situation but if remain MPs from both sides of house got behind PM in the search for a compromise instead of trying to keep us in by backdoor her position would be strengthened.

Yes the politics doesn't help, but she made a lot of these issues herself with the ludicrous "redlines" she came out with.

It is a bit depressing at this stage that both parties still seem to be coming out with a lot of fantasy scenarios in terms of the benefits they will get from the EU negotiation without any of the corresponding costs

iro

mayonnaise wrote: »

What's the 'proper' wage for picking strawberries?

A good question a 'proper wage' is one that attracts workers without relying on those from a poor economy where living standards are a sixth of the UK's

A proper wage is when employers are incentivised to substitute capital for labour, this will not happen whilst FOM is in place.

How many hand car washes existed before 2004?

None (unless you count bob a job week).

ukcarper

Filo25 wrote: »

Yes the politics doesn't help, but she made a lot of these issues herself with the ludicrous "redlines" she came out with.

It is a bit depressing at this stage that both parties still seem to be coming out with a lot of fantasy scenarios in terms of the benefits they will get from the EU negotiation without any of the corresponding costs

I would add that the EU doesn't help eitherwith there seemingly intransigence.

mayonnaise

Gently does it.

Thrugelmir

Ballard wrote: »

Once they have their answer they will decide whether they need to move part of their operation overseas.

Hasn't stopped them pre Brexit.

Thrugelmir

iro wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44230865

Good news

Time to invest some of the mega profits and years of EU subsidy in PAYING PROPER WAGES!

(or capital investment in raising productivity)

Brilliant, brilliant Brexit!

Return to the good old days of Pick Your Own............

Make the produce far cheaper.

Ballard

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Hasn't stopped them pre Brexit.

I’m not sure what you mean but they have always had the right to move operations whenever it suited them. The question is whether they will move more/less/the same number of jobs overseas once they know the new rules.

fewgroats

I think this "We leave next March" is a delaying tactic. We could leave now if it were possible.

Whatever happens in March will be up to a new Prime Minister.

Filo25

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Return to the good old days of Pick Your Own............

Make the produce far cheaper.

It might do if you can be bothered driving to your nearest strawberry grower!

Is this the model of post Brexit Britain agriculture, if you want any British fruit, forget going to the supermarket, just go out and pick it yourself

kabayiri

ilovehouses wrote: »

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Maybe next year they'll be picked by robots because the consumer won't pay more just because they're picked by Brits.

There is no practical reason why machines can not pick all these crops. It's capital investment up front which might be the issue.

We had combinations of machines making a shirt from scratch decades ago. The robot sewing machine could stitch a 2 part collar faster than any human could. That's a more complex task than picking fruit & veg.