Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Enterprise_1701C

mayonnaise wrote: »

So basically, thanks to the EU and the CAP, your mama could afford apples.

No, the ones from outside of the eu are made more expensive to protect the "apples" from countries within the eu. I have to say I have never tasted an apple frkm france that actually tastes like an apple or has the crunch of an apple.

I personally would rather have English apples anytime, and indeed I grow my own, but they are not always in season.

iro

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

No, the ones from outside of the eu are made more expensive to protect the "apples" from countries within the eu. I have to say I have never tasted an apple frkm france that actually tastes like an apple or has the crunch of an apple.

I personally would rather have English apples anytime, and indeed I grow my own, but they are not always in season.

Also the many other fruits from a global world.

The impact of the EEC/EC/EU has been to impoverish the developing world.

Good to see the POTUS teaching the EU some manners!

iro

Ballard wrote: »

Its such a shame that as a true patriot you apparently don!!!8217;t like English apples then.

Wiped out in the 70's by unfair French competition (they had the influence on the rules), would have loved some Old English varieties but the mass dumping of so called golden delicious wiped out suppliers.

The EU is run for the benefit of narrow sectoral groups if these do not get their way they burn tyres on motorways!

And of course the free powdered milk form the EEC milk lake that was exported to West Africa and replaced breast milk with devastating effects..........


The EU/EC/EEC screwing up everyone's world!

Sapphire

Golden Delicious applies are tasteless mush. There are some lovely varieties that grow well in Britain, like Cox and Russet apples, and many 'heritage' varieties that aren't big and flashy but taste delicious. What I like is getting hold of apples straight from a tree. You used to be able to buy apples sourced in the UK that were all of different sizes, and some even had the odd worm and you just cut it out. I liked that. Those apples were so tasty.

iro

Sapphire wrote: »

Golden Delicious applies are tasteless mush. There are some lovely varieties that grow well in Britain, like Cox and Russet apples, and many 'heritage' varieties that aren't big and flashy but taste delicious. What I like is getting hold of apples straight from a tree. You used to be able to buy apples sourced in the UK that were all of different sizes, and some even had the odd worm and you just cut it out. I liked that. Those apples were so tasty.

Everything had to be standardised for EU/EC/EEC Reichs Kommissioners!

Imagine our supermarkets if we could import produce from West Africa without the punitive 40% EU tariff, imagine the transformation to developing economies when they can access markets and trade their way out of poverty.

The EU is a protectionist, fascist superstate, it is run by the unelected, it is riddled by corruption and it rejects any democratic decision it disagrees with.It is happy to invite millions of economic migrants so that real wages are driven down in the pursuit of mega profits for the corporations who ultimately pull its stings. When it feels under threat it talks about 'reforming the EU from within', but this is just a ploy to deflect attention.

No amount of economic security is worth sacrificing for our freedom!

Ballard

iro wrote: »

Everything had to be standardised for EU/EC/EEC Reichs Kommissioners!

Imagine our supermarkets if we could import produce from West Africa without the punitive 40% EU tariff, imagine the transformation to developing economies when they can access markets and trade their way out of poverty.

The EU is a protectionist, fascist superstate, it is run by the unelected, it is riddled by corruption and it rejects any democratic decision it disagrees with.It is happy to invite millions of economic migrants so that real wages are driven down in the pursuit of mega profits for the corporations who ultimately pull its stings. When it feels under threat it talks about 'reforming the EU from within', but this is just a ploy to deflect attention.

No amount of economic security is worth sacrificing for our freedom!

In general, Africa doesn’t get enough water so I think that buying flowers or crops from that continent would be detrimental to the man in the street. The company that grows whichever crop would be delighted though. If you’re going to pretend that you care about Africans at least make sure that your plan would benefit the country and not just those who exploit it.

kabayiri

Is this the entire scope of Brexit then? Fruit & veg?

I don't really care if we have to pay a bit extra for tomatoes or oranges.

If you can encourage development and investment in the people here, they can become more productive and afford to pay for better oranges and tomatoes.

It sounds like our aspirations have fallen so much, that we really are becoming a sweatshop economy.

Today, I counted 9 workers at one manual car wash. What's the development plan for these individuals?

Herzlos

gfplux wrote: »

Even British tourist should be wise not to be coming back through UK customs in very early April 2019.

Very good point. I might make sure to spend the first 2 weeks on the outside.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

The trouble is you are taking everything at face value and if the EU are prepared to damage thier economy for political reasons that should tell you something it has certainly made me rethink. It should be possible to come to a reasonable arrangement I don't expect us to get all the benefits of remaining in EU but forcing us to go onto WTO rules benefits no one.

What does it tell you about the UK being willing to trash it's economy for political reasons? I'm always amazed that people think the UK is right to hurt itself for political reasons but the EU won't.

I've run through the numbers a few times and reckon Brexit is only really going to cost in the region of 2% of German car sales. Maybe less if customers just move down the value stack (3 series instead of 5, Volkswagen instead of Audi, Skoda instead of VW). It won't hurt them enough to jeopardise the Euro.

We'll come to an agreement, and I'm sure it'll include cars and car parts, but that could still really damage us.

Herzlos

iro wrote: »

Everything had to be standardised for EU/EC/EEC Reichs Kommissioners!

Imagine our supermarkets if we could import produce from West Africa without the punitive 40% EU tariff, imagine the transformation to developing economies when they can access markets and trade their way out of poverty.

The EU is a protectionist, fascist superstate, it is run by the unelected, it is riddled by corruption and it rejects any democratic decision it disagrees with.It is happy to invite millions of economic migrants so that real wages are driven down in the pursuit of mega profits for the corporations who ultimately pull its stings. When it feels under threat it talks about 'reforming the EU from within', but this is just a ploy to deflect attention.

No amount of economic security is worth sacrificing for our freedom!

You are of course aware that the poorest countries in Africa pay exactly 0% in tariffs for goods going to the EU, right?