Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Yet the German car manufacturers have said they won't help us and would rather not risk the euro project. So that ain't happening.

The trouble is you are taking everything at face value and if the EU are prepared to damage thier economy for political reasons that should tell you something it has certainly made me rethink. It should be possible to come to a reasonable arrangement I don't expect us to get all the benefits of remaining in EU but forcing us to go onto WTO rules benefits no one.

ukcarper

gfplux wrote: »

They need us more than we need them.

Are British politicians listening to the car manufacturers German and others who produce cars in the U.K.
I am not so sure.

There seems a belief that other Governments, Spanish, French and German listen to their voters. Thats nice for those voters but do you really think that is true. Do British politicians listen more or listen less that those in Spain, France and Germany.
Just look around are British politicians listening to British farmers, British car makers, British industry.
Some posters have a interesting belief in foreign Governments perhaps more than they have in their own.

This is your problem I'm not saying they need us more than we need them but if you think a no deal won't have a detrimental effect on the EU you are very blinkered indeed, no company will be happy with a risk a large percentage of thier sales. You like many of the extreme brexiters have a very narrow view and the outcome will not be as bad as you and others think or the bed of roses some brexiters think.

gfplux

Politico have this on todays Governments exercise in listening.

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BREXIT BLUES: Theresa May hosts the leaders of Britains biggest businesses in Downing Street today to provide an update on the Brexit talks. Its likely to be a rather difficult meeting. With 17 days to go until the next European Council summit, the PM appears no closer to finding an answer on either the Irish border, the customs union or the role of the European Court of Justice. Meanwhile her Cabinet remains bitterly divided, her Brexit department appears to be briefing against itself and her advisers are busy drawing up Armageddon scenarios of just how bad things might get next year. Add to that the fact that trade talks have barely started, there is still no sign of an immigration policy, and the massive battle looming in the Commons just to get the primary piece of Brexit legislation through unchanged. Positive news, its fair to say, is thin on the ground.

Who will be there? Sky News Mark Kleinman got the castlist on Friday afternoon. Alongside May will be Chancellor Philip Hammond, Business Secretary Greg Clark, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox and Brexit Secretary David Davis, he reports. Business leaders will include BAE Systems Chairman Roger Carr, GlaxoSmithKline Chief Executive Emma Walmsley, Tesco Chairman Dave Lewis and BT Chief Executive Gavin Patterson. They will all be demanding assurances that the PM may struggle to give.
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iro

Ballard wrote: »

I’m not convinced that we had to eat French golden delicious. Unless I’m very much mistaken they were simply an option.

There was no choice the blight of dumped so called 'golden delicious' was one of my memories of why the EU/EEC/EC was S--!

iro

Another track for the playlist, just in case project fear comes true and we find ourselves in a 'customageddom'.

The brilliant seekers;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX8XsyKzg5g

At least we can celebrate wiping out our trade deficit with the EU!

Ballard

iro wrote: »

There was no choice the blight of dumped so called 'golden delicious' was one of my memories of why the EU/EEC/EC was S--!

I can’t stand those apples either so I ate some of the many other options available at the time.

iro

Ballard wrote: »

I can’t stand those apples either so I ate some of the many other options available at the time.

As they were heavily subsidised by the CAP and my mother had limited resources all we ever got.

GD does really sum how disastrous the EU. 40% tariffs on food imports from 'third countries' to protect French farmers and German manufacturers.

The sooner we are rid of the rotten apple core of the EU the better!

Ballard

iro wrote: »

As they were heavily subsidised by the CAP and my mother had limited resources all we ever got.

GD does really sum how disastrous the EU. 40% tariffs on food imports from 'third countries' to protect French farmers and German manufacturers.

The sooner we are rid of the rotten apple core of the EU the better!

It sounds as though you couldn’t afford any other apples so got the cheapest ones. Your mother had the option of not buying any apples which is exactly the same position as if the French apples weren’t available.

The UK grows some lovely apples.

iro

Ballard wrote: »

It sounds as though you couldn’t afford any other apples so got the cheapest ones. Your mother had the option of not buying any apples which is exactly the same position as if the French apples weren’t available.

The UK grows some lovely apples.

No she was denied access to non EEC apples

Ballard

iro wrote: »

No she was denied access to non EEC apples

Its such a shame that as a true patriot you apparently don’t like English apples then.