Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

posh*spice wrote: »

Keep telling yourself that. We all know what we voted for and wont stop until we get we want....so keep trying to frustrate us but we will never go away

What did you vote for?

You are going away; it seems more want to stay than go and it's only been 2 years.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

What did you vote for?

You are going away; it seems more want to stay than go and it's only been 2 years.

I do think that the argument that people didn't now what they voted for is one put forward by some remainers to advance thier cause, it's fairly obvious that people who voted leave did not want to be subject to EU rules and Laws.

As for numbers of people wanting to stay or go the only thing that matters is the referendum opinion polls have shown themselves to be extremely unreliable.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

ukcarper wrote: »

it's fairly obvious that people who voted leave did not want to be subject to EU rules and Laws.

I'm just going to leave this here..... again.

"Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market"
~Daniel Hannan MEP, Leave campaigner


"Only a madman would actually leave the Market"
~Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer


"Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing"
~Nigel Farage, Ukip leader


"Increasingly, the Norway option looks the best for the UK"
~Arron Banks, Leave.EU founder

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

I do think that the argument that people didn't now what they voted for is one put forward by some remainers to advance thier cause, it's fairly obvious that people who voted leave did not want to be subject to EU rules and Laws.

So every remain vote was a vote for a hard wto deal?

As for numbers of people wanting to stay or go the only thing that matters is the referendum opinion polls have shown themselves to be extremely unreliable.

We'll that depends on how you view democracy. Is it allowed to change it's mind? When should we ask if we've changed our mind since polling has consistently shown an shift in voting intentions.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

So every remain vote was a vote for a hard wto deal?



We'll that depends on how you view democracy. Is it allowed to change it's mind? When should we ask if we've changed our mind since polling has consistently shown an shift in voting intentions.

No I don't think everybody wants a hard WTO most reasonable people thought a reasonable trade deal would be possible and it still is.

People are allowed to change their mind but there is no concrete evidence that they have and in my opinion unless there is concrete evidence that a significant majority want to stay we have to leave.

ukcarper

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

I'm just going to leave this here..... again.

"Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market"
~Daniel Hannan MEP, Leave campaigner


"Only a madman would actually leave the Market"
~Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer


"Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing"
~Nigel Farage, Ukip leader


"Increasingly, the Norway option looks the best for the UK"
~Arron Banks, Leave.EU founder

Taking a few qoutes out of context means nothing. I wonder if some on the remainers here know any leave voters or have even spoken to them. Although I voted remain the majority of people I know voted leave and I have a very good idea why they voted that way and it's not because they are xenophobic racists as some remainers try to make out.

iro

EU hegemony built on the misery of Greek, Italian, Spanish youth.

What the Germans could not achieve by force of arms they have achieved by their Greater Reich EU policy. Merkel tells you who can live in your country and how much you have to pay for the privilege.

The sooner the UK is no longer shackled to this disgusting, stinking corpse of the EU the better.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

Taking a few qoutes out of context means nothing. I wonder if some on the remainers here know any leave voters or have even spoken to them. Although I voted remain the majority of people I know voted leave and I have a very good idea why they voted that way and it's not because they are xenophobic racists as some remainers try to make out.

I'd love to see the context you can squeeze these into to make it sound like they are talking about a hard brexit.

Dippypud

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Couldn't agree more.

It should be an all party campaign to deliver that which was voted for.

Of course, with someone like Khorbyn in charge of the labour party there is no chance of that, they just want to cause as much trouble as they can, it is now utterly controlled by the unions.

My grandfather was at the top level of a union in his day, we are talking about about 60 years ago. At that time the unions cared about their members and looked after them, but there is no way they would have gone on strike when a worker sacked for a genuine reason, such as the tube worker sacked for failing two random alcohol breath tests, or the tube driver that was re-assigned after jumping THREE red lights.

These days the unions are a political cosh, the big ones especially seem to care little for the common people, they care more about attempting to bring down the government. With this situation there is little chance of the main parties working together to deliver what the people voted for.

The 'power' was taken from a majority of the unions by Maggie Thatcher...
Without unions today many more would starve on zero hour contracts ...

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

I'd love to see the context you can squeeze these into to make it sound like they are talking about a hard brexit.

It depends what you call a hard brexit to many that seems to be anything other that leaving EU in name only. There are positions between WTO rules and Remaining in single market and customs union.