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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5
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Leave.eu up to their tricks still, shame the damage is already done as we know their followers will lap up everything they say.
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No one is allowed to question Brexit anymore. There is only one message allowed. Remainers have been called some very awful things, but Brexiteers haven't as far as I can see.
Are you blind? If you have been following this thread, you can't fail to have noticed the slurs on brexit supporters by remainers. Racists, xenophobes, morons, knuckle draggers and that's just for starters.
You really need to keep up.0 -
No one is allowed to question Brexit anymore. There is only one message allowed. Remainers have been called some very awful things, but Brexiteers haven't as far as I can see.
It is based on racism. Terrible really.
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You must be reading a different thread to me then!!
Remain voters are called remoaners
Leave voters have been called......
Brexitards
Brexitwits
Pringle/pot noodle eaters
xenophobes
jingoists
thick
oh yes....and racist
All very nice i'm sure
The starting point of all achievement is desire0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Uncontrolled immigration and emigration are having impacts across Europe in many different ways. Fully understandable for economic reasons people wish to move. There's a world beneath that of VISA's and ESTA's though. People are culturally different. In itself a huge challenge for support services.
Which really suggests that the EU should allow its members to set up some basic controls on migration within the EU with a common control on the outer border.
Say the original six EEC members retained something akin to the Common Travel Area we have enjoyed for years with the Irish Republic these cultural issues could have been controlled.
Also the fears that have lead to Brexit would not have been so intense.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Brexit with respect, is bigger than who will be our PM for the next couple of occasions.
We may be back in the EU within 2 or 3 election cycles. I'm pretty confident of it.
It is. The younger generations don't want it, hence my comment above. The polling shows that the "youth" are more likely to want to remain and that political views are often shaped by the world they grew up in. Polling also shows a shift from leave to remain that is growing.Brexit is a generational shift in direction for the UK
So within 10 years we will very likely have a large shift to people who want back in, and within 15 years we could easily have applied to rejoin. We'll then be back in on worse terms than we had before, which will just cause resentment to the older generation that screwed us over for no reason we can understand. There will no doubt be serious outrage from those Leavers that are still with us for the betrayal of those pesky youth.
Any great plan still relies on details and implementation. The implementer carrying it out has some impact on the trade-off. Say your vision is going a bit off and needs surgery, butthe only person available is a brick-layer with no surgical experience - is it a good idea or not? Personally I'd hold off until I found a surgeon with experience.therefore it does surprise me how mired in the politics of here and now some remainers are.
Brexit may be a great idea in theory (I'm not actually against it conceptually), but how it's going to be implemented, at first and in the short term (by May and potentially Corbyn) will go a long way to shaping the future of the UK.
If we get a bad deal borne out of bad negotiatiors, then that'll hurt us for a long time. If the Tories use this to unroll rights for those that aren't wealthy, it could take decades to undo the damage.
Indeed it has, we're all largely sick of it. I'm still doing my best to figure out why we're even doing this.The country has moved on from past ECJ rulings and EU regulations I don!!!8217;t agree with, we had that argument in 2016.
One of the few understandable justifications for Brexit is not being beholden to the ECJ anymore (a point I think you made). I'm just trying to establish why that's a good thing. Does it make decisions you don't agree with? Or do you just think this extra level of scrutiny is wasteful or getting in the way of business?
In my view the ECJ does a lot to enforce human rights (and I know this covers the rights of prisoners and asylum seekers too, which is potentially where people object), and is something we should be embracing. If we don't like where it's going, we could always change it.0 -
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You must be reading a different thread to me then!!
Remain voters are called remoaners
Leave voters have been called......
Brexitards
Brexitwits
Pringle/pot noodle eaters
xenophobes
jingoists
thick
oh yes....and racist
All very nice i'm sure
I have to agree that there has been name calling on both sides of the argument. However most people have confined themselves to Leaver and Remainer
Personally I do not see any problems calling the more devout believers in leaving Brexiteers any more than the equivalent of Remainiac.
Racist is an insult of course and should not be used lightly, but we cannot get away from the fact that some people do hold such views.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Brexit may be a great idea in theory (I'm not actually against it conceptually), but how it's going to be implemented, at first and in the short term (by May and potentially Corbyn) will go a long way to shaping the future of the UK.
Like life, one simply gets on with it. Daily decisions will be made that will shape the future direction. Whether they be good or bad. Hindsight will be the only determination. Domestic issues will soon return to the fore once the umbilical cord is cut.0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »A non starter. Politically unacceptable though for reasons that have been discussed previously.
I agree it is politically unacceptable but that does not mean it would not have worked.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
I agree it is politically unacceptable but that does not mean it would not have worked.
The vote could have had a totally different outcome if it had v=been a proposal on the table. Instead since the vote there's been further fracturing and division across Europe. Which is in essence contrary to the whole concept of the EU. After several centuries of wars.0
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