Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Tromking

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Yawn.


Time to add you to my ignore list. :wave::wave:

Ditto.
The Luxembourger List Maker has broken me.
:wave::wave:

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

Arklight has.

Where? I don't see him denying it.

Herzlos

Sagacious_Samuel wrote: »

I see PSA have said they will build the next Vivaro van at Luton as well as increase output by two thirds, starting next year!

Good stuff; I was looking at getting one. Do they export many of them?

Arklight

Rinoa wrote: »

Corbyn has admitted there is anti semitism in the Laboiur party.

There is anti semitism everywhere, to an extent. You can only deal with it if you know about it. Which Labour have clearly said they are doing.

As far as your assertion, along with the rest of the Right, and Blairites, that the Left is intrinsically anti semitic (for some rationale that makes sense to almost no one), the Institute for Jewish Policy Research concluded an exhaustive report into anti-semitism in the UK in 2017 and concluded that:

... those on the political left were no more likely than average to hold antisemitic attitudes, but were more likely than average to hold anti-Israel attitudes, especially those on the far-left.

http://www.jpr.org.uk/documents/JPR.2017.Antisemitism_in_contemporary_Great_Britain.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Labour_Party#Institute_for_Jewish_Policy_Research_survey

While you were all pumping yourselves up with righteous indignation over Jeremy Corbyn going to a private passover celebration in his own constituency, with children present, who were being secretly recorded for some unpleasant right wing website to invade their privacy - 600 Palestinian demonstrators were being shot with live ammunition by Israeli soldiers in Gaza, two dozen of whom have died.

Yet Guide Fawkes and the Daily Mail don't appear to care about them, or the opinions of Jews who aren't rampant Zionists.

mayonnaise

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Yawn.


Time to add you to my ignore list. :wave::wave:

Tromking wrote: »

Ditto.
The Luxembourger List Maker has broken me.
:wave::wave:

Widely trumpeting you are putting people on ignore kind of defeats the principle of ignoring.

But do carry on.

Rinoa

Herzlos wrote: »

Where? I don't see him denying it.

If he isn't denying it, why is he demanding evidence it exists?
I think you're just being pedantic. Just argument for arguments sake. Pointless.

Arklight

Rinoa wrote: »

If he isn't denying it, why is he demanding evidence it exists?
I think you're just being pedantic. Just argument for arguments sake. Pointless.

So you have to accept something is true with no evidence?

I see, well that is very fitting for the Brexit thread.

FYI I am not denying there is or has been anti semitism in the Labour Party. I see no evidence that it is systemic or isn't being dealt with considering how recently it has been reported.

Let's hope the Tories can do something about their Islamophobia next.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/12/muslims-turned-to-labour-rejected-tory-party

It is not just inaction that has been the problem. The former Tory cabinet minister Sayeeda Warsi said there was a “simmering underbelly of Islamophobia in the Conservative party” – there is a wealth of evidence that supports the idea that Islamophobia is prevalent in the party.

After the shameful campaign the Tories ran in the London elections, I'm not holding my breath.

cogito

I don't ignore him but I do tend to scroll past his tedious repetitive posts. You don't need to read them when you already know what they contain.

cogito

ilovehouses wrote: »

Which means the list is a virtue signal. Given the subject of immigration was front and centre of the referendum campaign it's a bit odd that 'seeing a few less foreigners in the UK' didn't make it to the list.



Can't see much in the way of tangible financial benefits. Most forecasts predict that GDP will be less than it otherwise would be over the next decade.

The benefits are in the eyes of the beholder. Things like the warm glow of sovereignty - some people talk about this as if we're a nation emerging from oppression rather than a country who seem to have done quite well from voluntarily pooling sovereignty in certain areas.

We may (as in might have) done well out of free trade. I can't see any other areas where we 'seem to have done quite well'.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

We may (as in might have) done well out of free trade. I can't see any other areas where we 'seem to have done quite well'.

Not improved standards, shared resources and research, free movement or consistent regulations?