Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Rough_Justice

Herzlos wrote: »

I visit customers and suppliers in person at their factories across the world. Brexit won't have much impact on outside the eu but it's going to make the eu stuff harder.

Again.
Only if the EU decide to make it so.

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

The only people who think that obviously believe anti-semitism isn't important and shouldn't be reported.

That's quite the deflection so I'll take that as an admission it's blown out of proportion. Anti-Semitism is inexcusable, and so is misapprpriating it to smear an opponent.

Herzlos

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Again.
Only if the EU decide to make it so.

EU are deciding if we get free movement?

Arklight

Rinoa wrote: »

The only people who think that obviously believe anti-semitism isn't important and shouldn't be reported.

Would you like to provide some evidence of actual anti semitism or is the virtue signalling smear campaign in the Tory press enough for you?

Maybe you'd also like to read about Corbyn's attendance at the Seder celebration from an actual Jewish person's perspective. They are of course left wing, so not the right kind of Jew but they have the temerity to appear to think their opinion counts, even in defiance of those champions of equality, the Tory newspapers.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/we-had-the-right-to-enjoy-our-private-religious-celebration-with-jeremy-corbyn-without-fear-of-being-recorded/03/04/

I came to the Jewdas Seder last night as a completely new face. I!!!8217;ve been aware of them for a few years now, but it wasn!!!8217;t until now that I!!!8217;d gotten around to attending an event. Even though I!!!8217;d heard good things, I didn!!!8217;t really know what to expect, going in !!!8211; and I certainly wasn!!!8217;t expecting to see Jeremy Corbyn standing there the moment I walked through the door.

I!!!8217;d heard it was a welcoming environment, and that there would be Jews like me there: Jews who had had a limited religious upbringing, who were LGBT+, who didn!!!8217;t feel like they could support Jewish organisations that weren!!!8217;t willing to criticise Israel!!!8217;s domestic policy.

And I wasn!!!8217;t disappointed. It was nothing like my family Seder !!!8211; it was more political, more raucous, and decidedly more populated !!!8211; but at the same time, it felt like family.

Imagine, for a moment, that someone really famous has come to an event at your village hall !!!8211; not as a keynote speaker or publicity hook, but as an invited guest, like everyone else. People around you are surprised to see them, but the event itself is perfectly ordinary. You eat and drink. You do all the things that your village hall group usually does, and talk about all the things you normally talk about. Your kids play contentedly in the background, occasionally popping up to do an activity that!!!8217;s designed for them.

Now imagine finding out, as soon as you!!!8217;ve left, that the whole thing was recorded and sent to someone who has stated their intention to set your village hall on fire. That someone who is presumably known to at least a couple of people in your village association, if not someone who!!!8217;s been a member for a while, also wants to burn the hall down and eliminate the group.

Nothing that happened last night is in the public interest.

Jeremy Corbyn went to a meal he!!!8217;d been invited to.

He had a right to attend as a guest and have his privacy respected, but !!!8211; more importantly !!!8211; so did the rest of us.

The idea that the paparazzi might have shown up and caused tremendous distress to young children is so abhorrent to me that I can barely articulate it.

The idea that my private religious practice could be placed in the public domain, unbeknownst to me, at any time, makes me feel ill.

Last night, I felt accepted as a Jew for perhaps the first time in my life.

Last night, everyone in that room was betrayed and endangered !!!8211; because the trope of the Evil Jew is still alive, well, and fresh in the mouths of those who claim to oppose antisemitism.

I want to practise my religion and engage with my culture freely, the way only Jewdas has offered me the chance to do. I don!!!8217;t want to feel like I have to constantly look over my shoulder and wonder what the person behind me is doing with their phone.

If Guido Fawkes is so keen to defend the religious rights of Jews !!!8211; and this I have plenty of reason to doubt !!!8211; then what about our right to worship and observe in private? Why does this freedom only apply to a certain type of Jew?

Malthusian

It's nice to hear that Jezzer enjoyed his visit to a Jewish festival. Did he join in the traditional game of Monopoly played on the backs of the working class or was that a step too far?

gfplux

52% voted to leave the EU in June 2016 because of these advantages.
REASONS TO LEAVE THE EU.
from Rinoa on 2nd April 2018
* Free to negotiate trade deals with other countries
* Full UK representation on world bodies (such as climate change) wheras currently we are represented by the EU.
* Free to adopt our own tax laws eg. womens sanitary products
* Taking back control of our fishing waters (eventually)
* Ensuring UK courts cannot be overruled by the ECJ
* Not having to pay £8.5Bn to the EU every year
* Most importantly the warm glow of satisfaction, knowing we are once again a sovereign country, free to make our own laws and govern ourselves as we so wish.

No mention of immigrants or the NHS.

VERY important this, other than one Brexiter here quoting Mrs May saying part of the Brexit bonus will be spent on the NHS not one other Brexiter has either posted their own list of the advantages to Britain of Brexit or agreed with Rinoa.

Some have suggested that 52% would still vote for Brexit if the above list was put before them!

I am only asking (me the immigrant) (or emigrant) that given the benefit of 22 months AFTER the referendum

What are the BENEFITS to Britain of Brexit.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

I am only asking (me the immigrant) (or emigrant) that given the benefit of 22 months AFTER the referendum

What are the BENEFITS to Britain of Brexit.

Yawn.


Time to add you to my ignore list. :wave::wave:

Rinoa

Arklight wrote: »

Would you like to provide some evidence of actual anti semitism or is the virtue signalling smear campaign in the Tory press enough for you?

Corbyn has admitted there is anti semitism in the Laboiur party.

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

Corbyn has admitted there is anti semitism in the Laboiur party.

No One has denied it.

Rinoa

Herzlos wrote: »

No One has denied it.

Arklight has.