Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Lornapink

Arklight wrote: »

I don't listen to LBC Lorna, or watch much Jeremy Kyle as I have a job. I appreciate this means I miss out on an important Brexit channel of good news and feel good patriotism.

The Australians have at least started to talk about a trade deal with us. Sadly it's predicated on unconditional acceptance of their hormone treated beef. Currently banned by the EU it looks like their block-O-cows are coming to a supermarket near you.

As no British farmer will be able to compete with this aberration of nature on your dinner plate, they'll also be coming to a farm near you.

Here we go again, we will each have gun to our heads & forced to buy Aussie beef just as we are currently forced to buy & consume EU force fed ducks n geese, eh.......


You make no mention of the fact EU produce is subsidised by UK taxpayers, & that this is unfair competition for UK farmers. Typical Remainer, a lop-sided half formed view.

All you see is doom, utterly blind to reality & opportunity

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

In as much as a deal with the EU allows us, and for what little of our fishing rights we haven't sold over to foreign companies.

You appear to know little about certain topics. This is factually incorrect.

Lornapink

Arklight wrote: »

I don't listen to LBC Lorna, or watch much Jeremy Kyle as I have a job. I appreciate this means I miss out on an important Brexit channel of good news and feel good patriotism.

I don't watch Kyle.
Out of interest, aside from the very narrow view & low bandwidth information provided by journalists, how do you keep in touch with what ordinary people think, up and down the land?

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

People who voted remain were far more likely to be interacting with that big scary world.

Today's ardent Remainers are terrified of the world and the scary dragons that wait in ambush. How will we ever cope, lol.

Lornapink

ilovehouses wrote: »

I would've thought, given the international bounty of brexit, those companies who already trade internationally would be best placed to profit?

Big corporations always resist significant change, they like the protectionism the EU affords them, helps keep new entrants out.
Big corporations daily beat down the doors of John Redwood & Peter Lilly as they were working on SM implementation, as they feared that change to.

Share prices remain high, investors expect commensurate returns going forward. Project Fear doom is a fantasy - I hope Remainers don't disown the negativity later on as they realise everything turned out fine.

Remember the number 1 point you've always been blind to; Gov'ts of EU nations in the end wont want to harm their valuable UK trade. The EU Commission is irrelevant in the end.

LHW99

Is this a sufficiently positive (recent) item of news, from a reasonably independent source, to indicate that perhaps the UK may not be flat on its back after Brexit?
https://newsroom.barclays.com/r/3568/international_consumers_prepared_to_pay_up_to_22__more_for

Herzlos

Lornapink wrote: »

This precisely sums-up the problem with trying to converse with ardent Remainers, their entire outlook is predicated on the notion that change = bad, thus fear is the main driver in their thinking.

Not fear at all; just a rational cost/benefit and risk/reward analysis. A risky change must be worth the risk to justify doing, and none of the pro Brexit arguments on show any reward/benefit worth the risk.

Would you part exchange your car + £10k for a mystery box car with no details up front?

Herzlos

Lornapink wrote: »

The Swiss people overwhelmingly voted against joining the EU.
In your book this makes them thick, racist, small minded?


Iceland recently announced it wont be joining either. More thickies?

Nope. They decided against it for their reasons. They are both very heavily involved too do don't feel the need to go further. Though Iceland is already in Shengen?

Plus they voted based on well defined options; the status quo in the EEA or full membership.

Protest all you like but you've still no idea what sort of Brexit you're going to get.

And that's my objection to Brexit; it's a vague proposal with no majority, implemented by incompetents. You couldn't get less clarity or direction if you tried.

Arklight

Lornapink wrote: »

Here we go again, we will each have gun to our heads & forced to buy Aussie beef just as we are currently forced to buy & consume EU force fed ducks n geese, eh.......


You make no mention of the fact EU produce is subsidised by UK taxpayers, & that this is unfair competition for UK farmers. Typical Remainer, a lop-sided half formed view.

All you see is doom, utterly blind to reality & opportunity

You've already said you couldn't care less about animal welfare Lorna, and can't wait to begin noshing on chlorinated chicken.

Meanwhile, British farmers pocketed on average a cool £29k from subsidies themselves. You appear to have little appreciation of Thatcher's rebate.

You can try and hide your Brexit lies Lorna, but you can't the truth.

Herzlos

ilovehouses wrote: »

People who voted remain were far more likely to be interacting with that big scary world. They still voted to remain.

Your narrative is a myth.

I interact a lot with the world and I voted remain because it makes that interaction easier.