Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

Rough_Justice wrote: »

Provided any action is decided democratically there would be no need, it is the blatant disregard for democracy that rankles so many.

Definitely. Our democratically elected representatives should do what's best for the country, or seek opinion from the public.

Or do you reckon that a 51.9/48.1 vote once, and then ignoring opinion, is the only democracy that's allowed?

If the "will of the people" turns out to be bad for almost all of them, should we ignore democracy and press on anyway?

studentguy

Rough_Justice wrote: »

What a surprise, a remain supporter not seeing the BBC as pro-EU-biased! Well I never!


http://www.civitas.org.uk/publications/the-brussels-broadcasting-corporation/

http://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/brusselsbroadcastingcorporation.pdf
https://biasedbbc.org/

Well I often hear the same people complaining about BBC bias on both sides of the debate, so I'd imagine that means they're pretty equal.

Pretty fair analysis I think: http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/polis/2016/07/05/was-the-bbc-biased-over-brexit/

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

Definitely. Our democratically elected representatives should do what's best for the country, or seek opinion from the public.

Or do you reckon that a 51.9/48.1 vote once, and then ignoring opinion, is the only democracy that's allowed?

If the "will of the people" turns out to be bad for almost all of them, should we ignore democracy and press on anyway?

You could argue that the opinion of the public was sought in 2016 and is still in the process of being acted upon.
I’d be interested to know what has happened subsequently as regards a democratic steer from the public to suggest a change in direction.

phillw

Tromking wrote: »

I’d be interested to know what has happened subsequently as regards a democratic steer from the public to suggest a change in direction.

Theresa May asked for a bigger majority in the general election to deliver brexit, she ended up having to pay the DUP to keep her in power. That is a bit of a hint.....

Moby

https://institute.global/news/tony-blairs-speech-european-policy-centre Lays it all out. Anyone supporting brexit now is undermining our future.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Definitely. Our democratically elected representatives should do what's best for the country, or seek opinion from the public.

Or do you reckon that a 51.9/48.1 vote once, and then ignoring opinion, is the only democracy that's allowed?

If the "will of the people" turns out to be bad for almost all of them, should we ignore democracy and press on anyway?

How do you think a member of Parliament for a constituency that voted overwhelmingly for brexit should behave.

ukcarper

phillw wrote: »

Theresa May asked for a bigger majority in the general election to deliver brexit, she ended up having to pay the DUP to keep her in power. That is a bit of a hint.....

Remind me what other parties were saying in that election.

Theophile

ukcarper wrote: »

How do you think a member of Parliament for a constituency that voted overwhelmingly for brexit should behave.

MP's should act in the interest of their constituents.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

ukcarper wrote: »

Remind me what other parties were saying in that election.

Labour - A 'jobs first' Brexit with less of the extremism of the Tories, while hinting at being open to a variety of future relationships with the EU

SNP - Stay in the single market and customs union

Lib Dems - Stay in the EU via 2nd referendum


Regardless - Now Labour has denounced May's Brextremist 'red lines', come out and publicly backed staying in the CU and staying close to the EU.

They still lead in the polls.;)

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

How do you think a member of Parliament for a constituency that voted overwhelmingly for brexit should behave.

They should vote in the best interests of their constituency and country. Address their underlying concerns rather than just what they are asking for.

Tromking wrote: »

I’d be interested to know what has happened subsequently as regards a democratic steer from the public to suggest a change in direction.

1. Almost all of the Leave campaign promises being back tracked on or being outright lies.
2. Tories losing their strong majority on a brexit platform
3. It starting to become clearer what Brexit means
4. Polling showing the numbers shifting further towards remain.

With such a narrow (statistically insignificant) "win" for Leave, the number of voters changing their mind to change the will of the people is tiny.