Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

tracey3596

Ballard wrote: »

Please remind me of your first post.

Read back yourself instead of asking me to do it for you.
I was going to ask you to look after my children whilst I found it but on second thoughts ..................... no thank you.

gfplux

tracey3596 wrote: »

Same old, same old, same old.

Is all this cutting and pasting not contravening MSE's guidance on copyright infringement gfplux?
Surely one link would suffice.



David Davis's reaction to Labour's newest plan du jour:

David Davis: Labour selling "snake oil" Brexit



https://www.politico.eu/article/david-davis-jeremy-corbyn-labour-selling-snake-oil-brexit/

They are all from the House of Commons library. Don’t you get their weekly email?

This is a copy and paste from lower down in the email.


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tracey3596

Richar Leonard the Scottish Labour Leader is another Labour advocate of common sense it seems.

RICHARD Leonard is facing a major revolt at his first conference as Scottish Labour leader over his failure to back permanent membership of the European single market.

http://www.thenational.scot/news/16047013.Scottish_Labour_rebel_against_Leonard_over_hard_Brexit_support/

What a surprise that we're not seeing posts about Labour divisions from the usual remainer suspects here.
Not.

Ballard

tracey3596 wrote: »

There's one small problem with your conclusion.


Brexit negotiations have not yet been concluded so the only "misguided" thing there is your opinion.
In other words you are premature.

Is this the post to which you refer? If so then I’ve answered it several times. If you’re unable to comprehend my posts, which I’ve kept as simple as possible, then there’s no point in me continuing to do so.

gfplux

ukcarper wrote: »

Its difficult to say what could be achieved and what effect that will have on traditional Labour voters. Although in theory the numbers might be there for MPs to vote in favour of a customs union I think when push comes to shove not enough Torys with vote against government.

How many £billions would Britain have to pay the EU for a customs union?

gfplux

Filo25 wrote: »

It really depends if May can actually come up with something agreeable to both wings of her party and the EU, if she can then that will be the eventual solution, in reality we look no closer to achieving that than we did when she took power, in my opinion at least.

I would say Customs Union is now the obvious fallback if the government can't agree anything over the next 2-3 months. the ERG are destroying May here, putting out demands they know full well aren't likely to be accepted by the EU and realistically falling back to WTO terms isn't getting through parliament, no matter how much Brexit evangelicals bang on about betrayal.

Surely saying you/they would except a customs union ignores how many £billions would Britain have to pay the EU for a customs union?

From the Independent

Countries such as Switzerland and Norway do enjoy tariff-free access without being part of the customs union but both accept free movement and make contributions to the EU budget.

gfplux

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

There's two words they often forget about. Gibralter was ceded to Britain IN PERPETUITY.

Nothing is forever even perpetuity!

gfplux

Theophile wrote: »

As a big chunk of each country's contribution is calculated based on GNI (Gross National Income) and most Eurozone countries have seen decent to superb growth recently, their contribution will increase anyway.
It's a non issue.

If Britain want a customs Union that will cost a few £billion.

From the Independent
Countries such as Switzerland and Norway do enjoy tariff-free access without being part of the customs union but both accept free movement and make contributions to the EU budget.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/customs-union-what-is-eu-brexit-single-market-alternatives-labour-corbyn-speech-a8228696.html

Filo25

I though the Norwegians and Swiss paid significant amountsfor Single Market Access, as opposed to Customs Union membership

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

How many £billions would Britain have to pay the EU for a customs union?

Would the UK pay billions to join a Customs Union. Even Corbyn suggested that the UK should be no worse off. Smoke and mirror words.......

Appeases the faithfull followers. Yet adds nothing to the current debate.