Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Rough_Justice

Herzlos wrote: »

We buy under 10% of German car output. The Bavarian car industry is going nowhere.

Wrong!
20%.

and one in five cars built in Germany ends up in Britain

http://observer.com/2017/08/brexit-britain-car-industry-free-trade/

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

It's not. But we don't want a regular trade deal. We want seamless access to a single market

Do really you think the actual EU and in particularly Eire wants barriers. Barnier walks a fine line. As at the end of the day it's peoples jobs at stake.

gfplux

Arklight wrote: »

Young people are better educated than they've ever been, youth crime is lower than it's ever been. Young people are smart enough not to vote for Brexit and have seen right through the Tories' lies.

Where is the failure?

However everyone should be disappointed by how many young people did NOT vote in the referendum.
No one will be surprised that young people will turn their backs on May 3rd 2018 during the local council elections that will be taking place in many parts of the country.

gfplux

Rough_Justice wrote: »

It's weird isn't it how so many of these highly-paid, well-educated remainers find so much time throughout every day it seems to post their remain propaganda.
:whistle:

Me; I gotta return to my work now. Supposedly due to my age and education I should be a remainer so yet another indication of what a load of twaddle the supposed correlation between education, age and voting really is.

Absolute twaddle I agree.
I am well over 70 and have been retired for a long long time. YET I am a remainer.

gfplux

ilovehouses wrote: »

Do you mean the transitional agreement or the post-transitional deal.

The transitional deal will probably include FOM and being under ECJ & EU rules but I'd find myself asking so what?

I really don't see the big deal here. The transition is a just a period of time where things stay pretty much as they are so we can prepare for the new rules to be implemented when the transition ends. There is simply nothing for anyone to get their knickers in a twist about; we've been following EU rules for decades - another 20 months won't hurt.

It would defeat the object of a transition if it introduced major changes to be prepared for implementation in March 2019 followed by another set of major changes to be implemented in December 2020.

If you're talking about the post transition deal that's a different matter but I doubt it'll include FOM or us being under ECJ jurisdiction. I can't see much of a divergence between EU and UK rules though other than in name only given the UK has been involved in the drafting and approval process of all EU legislation.

Small correction although huge in terms of its effect.
Theresa May has said she does not want FOM to apply during the transition period. There are hints that a form of FOM would be exceptable to her. That form would mean that EU27 arriving in the UK would have no rights to stay.
Wether this is a deal breaker no one knows.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Absolute twaddle I agree.
I am well over 70 and have been retired for a long long time. YET I am a remainer.

I'm alright Jack........... an attititude that doesn't reasonate well. Many people aren't. Austerity is alive and kicking.

kabayiri

Brexit has already changed things, and it will continue to do so throughout the leaving process.

Attitudes of migrants arriving or leaving; input costs due to pound revaluation etc; changing business relationships.

It's a time of change, and for some that means opportunity. I know of one American company who would love access to our NHS markets right now. They aren't the only one to spot opportunities. If PM May wants a deal with the USA she will be asked for concessions.

I'm surprised Soros was so anti the whole Brexit thing. He likes making money from disruption on a large scale.

phillw

tracey3596 wrote: »

"I've had enough of being a Remoaner!' New Brexiteer caller's CONFESSION to Nigel Farage

Boris's speech seems to have worked on one person at least.

Or it's another leaver lie....

gfplux wrote: »

Small correction although huge in terms of its effect.
Theresa May has said she does not want FOM to apply during the transition period. There are hints that a form of FOM would be exceptable to her. That form would mean that EU27 arriving in the UK would have no rights to stay.

Yeah, Theresa Mays issue with FOM and the ECJ etc is she wasn't allowed to deport people back to their home country to face torture or death. As long as she is allowed to do that, then I doubt she cares who arrives.

Of course she still won't be allowed to do that, we fortunately still have no say over some of our laws. Parliamentary sovereignty is a pretty rubbish runners up prize.

kabayiri wrote: »

I'm surprised Soros was so anti the whole Brexit thing. He likes making money from disruption on a large scale.

People change. You only have to look at Bill Gates, who made a lot of money out of some dodgy business practices. Now he's giving it away. Black Wednesday was 25 years ago, look back at who you were back then. Are you the same now?

gfplux

Another of those small changes or is it an opportunity?

Perhaps news like this should be described as a Brexit Opportunity in future.

http://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/brexit-scuppers-ferries-between-great-yarmouth-and-holland-1-5396733
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Seamax Ferries had hoped to launch daily ferries carrying up 100 cars and 100 trailers between Ijmuiden and Yarmouth!!!8217;s port operated by Peel Ports from this spring.

This week the Dutch firm!!!8217;s website suddenly changed from advertising the service and ferry timings, instead replacing it with a message saying because of the !!!8220;uncertainty!!!8221; over the consequences of the Brexit vote and process the service was postponed.
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gfplux

Here is another Brexit opportunity although only a small one.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/brexit-and-stormont-blamed-as-building-firm-plans-to-axe-45-jobs-36601591.html

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Acheson and Glover said it was now consulting with its workforce over the job losses should it go ahead with the closure of a precast plant in Magherafelt.

The proposal was "directly linked" to delays or cancellations of UK building projects in the wake of the referendum to leave the EU, and a lack of capital spending at home due to the absence of an Executive, the firm said.

There had been a slump in orders for some of its flooring and precast stairs "as a result of uncertainty in the marketplace driven by Brexit".
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