Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

System

Tromking wrote: »

So your guessing that Mainland Europe’s burgeoning fascist problem is merely a temporary aberration are you?
I fear you may be in for a major disappointment.
Mainland Europeans are installing these scum into Government positions now, if this your EU you can keep it.

I think it is yes and I reckon you are merely engaging in some post decision justification.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

To be honest I blame the people who vote for fascists for the election of fascists rather than those who don't.

Then you need to read history. People react to their own personal situations. Being imposed upon is certain way of getting peoples backs up. The EU project isn't benefitting everybody by any means. Being unwilling to adapt to a changing world is the downfall of many.

Tromking

ilovehouses wrote: »

I think it is yes and I reckon you are merely engaging in some post decision justification.

I’m totally at ease with my vote to leave and chuffed to bits that more people agreed with me than you.
What’s to justify?
Slightly curious however how many bitter remain voters are so keen to flag up the motivations of leave voters and call them them fascists, yet are seemingly blind to the real deal fascists gaining traction in various Parliaments across the continent.

Thrugelmir

Tromking wrote: »

Slightly curious however how many bitter remain voters are so keen to flag up the motivations of leave voters and call them them fascists, yet are seemingly blind to the real deal fascists gaining traction in various Parliaments across the continent.

Nationalists would be a better term.

BobQ

An interesting view form Blair. Better to read the actual words than how they are reported.

The commentary makes good points. Even if you do not agree with him, the argument is very cogent.

No doubt those who cannot critique the argument will just attack the messenger.


https://institute.global/news/tony-blair-brexit-what-we-now-know

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Last I heard the government ran the health service and not me.

Perhaps you should take more of an interest then.

For your information.

Resource allocation and oversight was delegated to NHS England, an arms-length body, by the Health and Social Care Act 2012.

vivatifosi

BobQ wrote: »

An interesting view form Blair. Better to read the actual words than how they are reported.

The commentary makes good points. Even if you do not agree with him, the argument is very cogent.

No doubt those who cannot critique the argument will just attack the messenger.


https://institute.global/news/tony-blair-brexit-what-we-now-know

I think that there is a lot of truth in what he says. The issue I have with what he says is he is an arch remainer. He doesn't give you both sides of the argument in order to make your own mind up.

Sadly though, this is typical of Blair. He is absolutely convinced that he is right about things and his opinion goes. I voted remain and felt we would be better in and trying to change things from inside. He sees that as the best option.

But it does raise the question... what the heck did he do in the twelve years that he was in charge to help achieve this change in the EU that he is now proposing?

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

An interesting view form Blair. Better to read the actual words than how they are reported.

The commentary makes good points. Even if you do not agree with him, the argument is very cogent.

No doubt those who cannot critique the argument will just attack the messenger.

The lack of response from Corbyn is telling. Is this a concerted attempt to unseat him.......

posh*spice

Tromking wrote: »

It maybe coining a phrase from earlier in the day but this is a Brexit thread, why are you bringing up a domestic UK issue?

Nothing he/she likes more than to run down Britain. I don't know why they don't give up their British nationality?

posh*spice

vivatifosi wrote: »

I think that there is a lot of truth in what he says. The issue I have with what he says is he is an arch remainer. He doesn't give you both sides of the argument in order to make your own mind up.

Sadly though, this is typical of Blair. He is absolutely convinced that he is right about things and his opinion goes. I voted remain and felt we would be better in and trying to change things from inside. He sees that as the best option.

But it does raise the question... what the heck did he do in the twelve years that he was in charge to help achieve this change in the EU that he is now proposing?

Blur? is he the guy who left us with a war in Iraq and a £150 billion per annum budget deficit?

Yeh I trust his vision.

The man's a fool.